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    • DanielAFCD
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      Nice one man. Fall in love definitely my favourite slum village track. Love the Miguel Atwood ferguson orchestral version of it on suite for ma dukes as well

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      • madmondayM
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        ohighyo i see your point, i can name a few "rappers" that defeat your theory.

        nas
        j cole
        kendrick lamar
        talib kwali
        mos def
        scarface
        andre 3000
        jay-z
        lox (styles p is my guy)

        made sure i stayed with folks that are successful enough for other people to have heard of & easy to find. also they span age so it's not just the old foggies or the youngsters

        head high, middle finger higher

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        • madmondayM
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          damn & i left out lupe fiasco, smiff & wesson, mf doom

          oh well you get my point.

          head high, middle finger higher

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          • ohighyoO
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            Ya doesn't work for them all. I'll give you outkast. I fucking love aquemini, and it's def better than southernplay. In question your judgement if you think nas ever did better than illmatic 🙂

            Slipping gradually into senility

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            • mclaincauseyM
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              OutKast and Goodie Mob were so great.

              Think it, be it.

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              • derivative666D
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                I just started listening to Kanye and am blown away. I haven't listened to hip hop in years. I used to be a big fan late 80's early 90's. I remember seeing Wu-Tang back in '92

                Truth be told I was on my way to Brooklyn with a few buddies going to see Neutral Milk Hotel. The dude driving was listening to Jeezus and I have been hooked since. Listening to Kanye on your way to see NMH in Brooklyn is about as hipster as it gets all we were missing was coffee and beards. Fucking losers!

                "honorable mention to the bearded giant aka derivative666 for being a stand up dude & not changing with the seasons since i've been around these parts" Monday

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                • madmondayM
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                  @ohighyo:

                  Ya doesn't work for them all. I'll give you outkast. I fucking love aquemini, and it's def better than southernplay. In question your judgement if you think nas ever did better than illmatic 🙂

                  i like you ohighyo, mister fritto man, but he nas has done better work.  his catalogue is crazy, & i respect that he has grown instead of the same tales of fast women & broken homes.

                  i'll give you the felling you get from illmatic, but that's because you were being introduced to something so raw & untapped & you didn't know what it was gonna be.  sorta of like the "purple tape" with rae & ghost back in the day.

                  you get this tape & your like wtf is this & then these guys get on & just pour their hearts out.  i'll just say alot changes when you are feeding a bunch of people & take it we got to agree to disagree.

                  oh andre 3000 is the greatest ever at what he does.  i think he doesn't get the kudos he should

                  head high, middle finger higher

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                  • seanoconoS
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                    ^Andre 3000 is the shit. Can't wait for the new Outkast. Big Boi actually killed it on Luscious Left Foot, too.

                    I'm also a fan of Kanye's music, and thought Yeezus was great. His personality, and that "Bound" video, though…

                    Anyone see the Franco/Rogan remake?

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                    • derivative666D
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                      Franco/Rogan had me in tears

                      "honorable mention to the bearded giant aka derivative666 for being a stand up dude & not changing with the seasons since i've been around these parts" Monday

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                      • seanoconoS
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                        Haha. Yeah, funny shit.

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                        • pillowPANTSP
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                          The reason first albums are sooo good are exactly the reason MM stated. So fresh and raw, unexpected. Plus they had years to put it together. J said that reasonable doubt was like 18yrs in the making lol. Makes sense

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                          • Z
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                            Since this is Unpopular Opinions…

                            Kanye is unlistenable. After one listen of Watch The Throne, I turned it off and will never listen to him again. Nor Hova.

                            Remember when hip hop was more than just a catalogue of how much awesome shit you had?

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                            • derivative666D
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                              ^Whole heartedly disagree.

                              "honorable mention to the bearded giant aka derivative666 for being a stand up dude & not changing with the seasons since i've been around these parts" Monday

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                              • natehateN
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                                the great rap debate
                                i dont enjoy kanye's newer stuff
                                and his all around shittiness have tainted earlier work for me as well
                                i'm still a firm believer that the 36 chambers is the best hip hop album by a group
                                and ready to die is the best by a solo artist
                                and to the claim the jay-z only had one good album?
                                are you shitting me ?
                                his entire catalog is good
                                i'm not saying its the most thought provoking music
                                but its fun
                                and the black album was awesome

                                and on the notion that the first album by anyone is there best
                                thats basically ALL of music

                                don't you know there ain't no devil? only god when he's drunk!

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                                • mclaincauseyM
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                                  I don't always listen to rap…

                                  But when I do, it was someone else's idea.

                                  Think it, be it.

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                                  • Mild7M
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                                    Im with you Nate.  Every line of what you said I was nodding my head.  It would be very interesting if Mr Wallace was still with us.  Would he have been caught up further in the Jay-Z Kanye phenomenon?  Who knows.  I would like to think if he were around, Jay-Z would be a different person altogether.

                                    And re Kendrick MM, I think he's the best of the last few years, by a long ass way.

                                    Honourable mentions to Danny Brown and A$AP Rocky.  Fresh, new.

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                                    • madmondayM
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                                      funny mclain,

                                      i love earlsweatshirt & nipsey hussle but now we would be getting into a music talk.

                                      best rap group album would have to go to a tribe called quest midnight marauders or outcast aquemini.
                                      best solo i'll get back to you in the correct thread . . . if i can really give it thought.

                                      this thread is for hate & discontent being spread out  😞

                                      so to get back to it, i don't want winter/cold weather to end.  don't get me wrong, i hate snow more than anyone i know, but the general cooler weather is the sh!t, fuck the sand & beaches.  give me a cold city street & i'm happy mofo,  most people look way better dressed than in short sleeves & chicken legs.  makes it easier to talk to folks if they scrawny legs is covered

                                      while i'm at it you shouldn't wear muscle shirts if you haven't seen a gym/exercise since the last time the olsen twins was on full house

                                      head high, middle finger higher

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                                      • ohighyoO
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                                        Chiddy bang is the shit! Probably what I consider to be the best rapper in along time. Aquemini is def in my top five. I know every song and every word. Atliens would land in my top 10, with  Thirteenth floor/growing old being my favorite rap song ever!!!!!! 96 gone be that year…..

                                        Slipping gradually into senility

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                                        • ohighyoO
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                                          We need a rap thread.

                                          Slipping gradually into senility

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                                          • ohighyoO
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                                            Me & my ni@&a we roll together like Batman & Robin
                                            we prayed together through hard times
                                            and swung hard when it was fitting
                                            But now we tappin' the brakes from all them corners that we be bending
                                            in Volkswagens & Bonnevilles Chevrolets and Coupe De Villes
                                            If you ain't got no rims ni&$a don't get no wood grain
                                            steering wheel for real.

                                            Favorite rap verse ever. Monday will know it right away 🙂

                                            Ok I'm done although I could talk all day about good rap music….

                                            Slipping gradually into senility

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