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    • DanielAFCD
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      I'd love to hear a really strong interviewer sit down for an honest interview with Kanye, to hear him reflect on an album like the college dropout lyrically and how it reflects what his life has become now. I think if done well it could be very interesting. I think jian ghomeshi or nardwaur (this wont be happening) could make the best go of it.

      I've personally always enjoyed what Kanye has done musically, and along with dilla and doom and Madlib (I know I've left out a couple, apologies) he went a long way towards influencing a lot of modern production style hip hop today. I will always have time for his music, current persona is cringeworthy though. I wasn't even that bothered by the Taylor swift thing, she is an industry pawn and beyonces video was really damn cool.

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      • ChrisC
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        Stronger is a genuinely good song.

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        • ohighyoO
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          He would probably say it was his greatest writing of all time like the rest of them. Grimy street lyrics that took years and years to write down. After an artist like jayz or kanye produce their first first album, the rest only take a year to make. Lyrics like the songs from reasonable doubt took years to come up with. It's all right there. All their greatest writing is used up on their first album. From there on out its all about the "hip hop fame lifestyle" but before they were famous they were hungry.

          Slipping gradually into senility

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          • Megatron1505M
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            I don't get rap music and feel like it wasn't really made for me, I feel the same way about country music. I used to like rap when I was a teenager because it had swearing in it.

            Made in England, clothed in Japan, fed in America and drunk in Belgium !

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            • ohighyoO
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              @daniel slum village can do no wrong. Fantastic vol 2 is in my top five.

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              • DanielAFCD
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                Nice one man. Fall in love definitely my favourite slum village track. Love the Miguel Atwood ferguson orchestral version of it on suite for ma dukes as well

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                • madmondayM
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                  ohighyo i see your point, i can name a few "rappers" that defeat your theory.

                  nas
                  j cole
                  kendrick lamar
                  talib kwali
                  mos def
                  scarface
                  andre 3000
                  jay-z
                  lox (styles p is my guy)

                  made sure i stayed with folks that are successful enough for other people to have heard of & easy to find. also they span age so it's not just the old foggies or the youngsters

                  head high, middle finger higher

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                  • madmondayM
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                    damn & i left out lupe fiasco, smiff & wesson, mf doom

                    oh well you get my point.

                    head high, middle finger higher

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                    • ohighyoO
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                      Ya doesn't work for them all. I'll give you outkast. I fucking love aquemini, and it's def better than southernplay. In question your judgement if you think nas ever did better than illmatic 🙂

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                      • mclaincauseyM
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                        OutKast and Goodie Mob were so great.

                        Think it, be it.

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                        • derivative666D
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                          I just started listening to Kanye and am blown away. I haven't listened to hip hop in years. I used to be a big fan late 80's early 90's. I remember seeing Wu-Tang back in '92

                          Truth be told I was on my way to Brooklyn with a few buddies going to see Neutral Milk Hotel. The dude driving was listening to Jeezus and I have been hooked since. Listening to Kanye on your way to see NMH in Brooklyn is about as hipster as it gets all we were missing was coffee and beards. Fucking losers!

                          "honorable mention to the bearded giant aka derivative666 for being a stand up dude & not changing with the seasons since i've been around these parts" Monday

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                          • madmondayM
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                            @ohighyo:

                            Ya doesn't work for them all. I'll give you outkast. I fucking love aquemini, and it's def better than southernplay. In question your judgement if you think nas ever did better than illmatic 🙂

                            i like you ohighyo, mister fritto man, but he nas has done better work.  his catalogue is crazy, & i respect that he has grown instead of the same tales of fast women & broken homes.

                            i'll give you the felling you get from illmatic, but that's because you were being introduced to something so raw & untapped & you didn't know what it was gonna be.  sorta of like the "purple tape" with rae & ghost back in the day.

                            you get this tape & your like wtf is this & then these guys get on & just pour their hearts out.  i'll just say alot changes when you are feeding a bunch of people & take it we got to agree to disagree.

                            oh andre 3000 is the greatest ever at what he does.  i think he doesn't get the kudos he should

                            head high, middle finger higher

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                            • seanoconoS
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                              ^Andre 3000 is the shit. Can't wait for the new Outkast. Big Boi actually killed it on Luscious Left Foot, too.

                              I'm also a fan of Kanye's music, and thought Yeezus was great. His personality, and that "Bound" video, though…

                              Anyone see the Franco/Rogan remake?

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                              • derivative666D
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                                Franco/Rogan had me in tears

                                "honorable mention to the bearded giant aka derivative666 for being a stand up dude & not changing with the seasons since i've been around these parts" Monday

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                                • seanoconoS
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                                  Haha. Yeah, funny shit.

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                                  • pillowPANTSP
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                                    The reason first albums are sooo good are exactly the reason MM stated. So fresh and raw, unexpected. Plus they had years to put it together. J said that reasonable doubt was like 18yrs in the making lol. Makes sense

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                                    • Z
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                                      Since this is Unpopular Opinions…

                                      Kanye is unlistenable. After one listen of Watch The Throne, I turned it off and will never listen to him again. Nor Hova.

                                      Remember when hip hop was more than just a catalogue of how much awesome shit you had?

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                                      • derivative666D
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                                        ^Whole heartedly disagree.

                                        "honorable mention to the bearded giant aka derivative666 for being a stand up dude & not changing with the seasons since i've been around these parts" Monday

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                                        • natehateN
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                                          the great rap debate
                                          i dont enjoy kanye's newer stuff
                                          and his all around shittiness have tainted earlier work for me as well
                                          i'm still a firm believer that the 36 chambers is the best hip hop album by a group
                                          and ready to die is the best by a solo artist
                                          and to the claim the jay-z only had one good album?
                                          are you shitting me ?
                                          his entire catalog is good
                                          i'm not saying its the most thought provoking music
                                          but its fun
                                          and the black album was awesome

                                          and on the notion that the first album by anyone is there best
                                          thats basically ALL of music

                                          don't you know there ain't no devil? only god when he's drunk!

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                                          • mclaincauseyM
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                                            I don't always listen to rap…

                                            But when I do, it was someone else's idea.

                                            Think it, be it.

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