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    • Finn666F
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      @gbougard:

      I dont like type 3 jackets without side pockets…

      word!

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        @bertoni:

        For example, 100% pure smack is no more or less harmful than sugar for the human organism.

        Sorry to pull you up, but that's blatantly wrong, and that sort of careless paraphrasing based on one-eyed reporting has the potential to do a lot of harm.  Sugar doesn't often depress your central nervous system to the point you stop breathing, nor does it cause psychotic episodes or lead people to pick holes in their skin.  Sure it causes it's own set of problems, but it ain't no opiate.

        I fail to see how my opinions are in any way potentially harmful! If someone goes out and sticks a needle in his groin based on what he read on a denim forum then I guess we can safely assume he has problems. I would gladly read any studies you may find that show/prove the poisonous nature of heroin. My original point was simply this: prohibition renders everything more toxic than it really is. If you were to declare water illegal today, then tomorrow you would have all sorts of cut-up nastiness on the streets.

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          "Start with the allegation that heroin damages the minds and bodies of those who use it, and consider the biggest study of opiate use ever conducted, on 861 patients at Philadelphia General hospital in the 20s. It concluded that they suffered no physical harm of any kind. Their weight, skin condition and dental health were all unaffected. "There is no evidence of change in the circulatory, hepatic, renal or endocrine functions. When it is considered that some of these subjects had been addicted for at least five years, some of them for as long as 20 years, these negative observations are highly significant."

          Check with Martindale, the standard medical reference book, which records that heroin is used for the control of severe pain in children and adults, including the frail, the elderly and women in labour. It is even injected into premature babies who are recovering from operations. Martindale records no sign of these patients being damaged or morally degraded or becoming criminally deviant or simply insane. It records instead that, so far as harm is concerned, there can be problems with nausea and constipation.

          Or go back to the history of "therapeutic addicts" who became addicted to morphine after operations and who were given a clean supply for as long as their addiction lasted. Enid Bagnold, for example, who wrote the delightful children's novel, National Velvet, was what our politicians now would call "a junkie", who was prescribed morphine after a hip operation and then spent 12 years injecting up to 350mg a day. Enid never - as far as history records - mugged a single person or lost her "herd instinct", but died quietly in bed at the age of 91. Opiate addiction was once so common among soldiers in Europe and the United States who had undergone battlefield surgery that it was known as "the soldiers' disease". They spent years on a legal supply of the drug - and it did them no damage.
          We cannot find any medical research from any source which will support the international governmental contention that heroin harms the body or mind of its users. Nor can we find any trace of our government or the American government or any other ever presenting or referring to any credible version of any such research. On the contrary, all of the available research agrees that, so far as harm is concerned, heroin is likely to cause some nausea and possibly severe constipation and that is all. In the words of a 1965 New York study by Dr Richard Brotman: "Medical knowledge has long since laid to rest the myth that opiates observably harm the body." Peanut butter, cream and sugar, for example, are all far more likely to damage the health of their users. "
          Nick Davies, The Guardian, 2001

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          • ohighyoO
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            Sugar actually counters Special K and keeps you from going into a k hole. So sugar isn't that bad. guess its kind of like narcan for heroin. Drugs are an addiction, not a crime.

            Slipping gradually into senility

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              One problem here bertoni is: you are comparing medical controlled and administered doses of heroin to the uncontrolled consumption of sugar by a kid. That doesn’t go well

              But then Paracelsus said: ”The dose makes the poison” which is true on both accounts I guess.

              edit: Oh okay..you edited your post about your kid and sugar 😛  😉

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                Yeah sorry BF! Realised the analogy wasn't very balanced 🙂 The article wasn't encouraging Heroin use rather attracting attention as to the dangers and pitfalls of prohibition. Look at all the blind blues artists, rendered blind by the moonshine they drank. One example of harmful prohibition. Hope you're good anyway BF 😉

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                • fanyaF
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                  I really dislike toe caps and all that fancy stuff on boots.

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                  • GilesG
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                    What's unpopular about that?  😶

                    "OK face up to it - you're useless but generally pretty honest and straightforward . . . it's a rare combination of qualities that I have come to admire in you" - Geo 2011

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                    • ChrisC
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                      Because toe caps are awesome, that's why.
                      😛

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                      • fanyaF
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                        And it starts ;p

                        I should of also added while on this…

                        I really dislike double welt construction, I doubt I'll ever own a boot with one...

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                        • 4c4
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                          I like toe caps…

                          Here’s an unpopular opinion: I think women who wear make-up look ugly and insecure. 😶

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                          • Finn666F
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                            Here’s an unpopular opinion: I think women who wear a shitload of make-up look ugly and insecure. 😶

                            fixed…less is more in this case!

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                            • GilesG
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                              Ain't that the truth.  There are some stunningly beautiful girls in Gosport who completely destroy their look by layering on heaps of the shite….Well, and then dying their hair (what we call) Gozza red, doesn't help either.....

                              "OK face up to it - you're useless but generally pretty honest and straightforward . . . it's a rare combination of qualities that I have come to admire in you" - Geo 2011

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                                You can't beat a bit of Aunt Sally imho. Scratts rule!

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                                  For those of you unfamiliar with Worzel Gummidge. Lush.

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                                  • GilesG
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                                    This is what Paula and I would refer to as Gozza red.

                                    Note how the the foundation (?) is trowelled liberally over the spots and the lips clash beautifully with the hair.

                                    Pure feckin class…..

                                    "OK face up to it - you're useless but generally pretty honest and straightforward . . . it's a rare combination of qualities that I have come to admire in you" - Geo 2011

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                                    • Finn666F
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                                      Giles - thanks for destroying my day…urgh! -.-

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                                      • GilesG
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                                        Look on the bright side, it can only get better now…....

                                        "OK face up to it - you're useless but generally pretty honest and straightforward . . . it's a rare combination of qualities that I have come to admire in you" - Geo 2011

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                                          I so would.

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                                          • SeulS
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                                            @bertoni:

                                            I so would wear lots of make-up.

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