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    Megatron1505
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    Joined: 10 Jul 2011

    Live where I live and you cannot call drug abuse/ addiction victimless. From this mornings local news alone….

    • 26 year old woman attacked for the contents of her handbag in an area known as a junkie hang out.

    • Body found in abandoned garage known as a junkie hangout.

    • Playground closed for refurbishment due to repeated complaints about syringes being found.

    My love of rock n roll does not and never has equated to condoning, glorifying or even sympathising with drug addiction. Drugs are a choice, not a random disease I have taken them myself and I was a fucking idiot.

    And the amount of people pouring out their hearts on social media about the death PSH.....I'm pretty sure that they weren't all touched by his genius, I'm pretty sure some if not most of them were getting a ghoulish pleasure from jumping all over the celebrity death bandwagon.

    Apologies if presuming someones motives is something I do, I guess I'm human and not some all knowing morally perfect, erudite super being. Must try harder  😠

    Made in England, clothed in Japan, fed in America and drunk in Belgium !

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      madmonday
      Raw and Unwashed
      Joined: 13 Oct 2009

      Jor-El & Larra Lor-Van would approve

      head high, middle finger higher

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        mclaincausey
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        Joined: 12 Apr 2013

        @Megatron1505:

        Live where I live and you cannot call drug abuse/ addiction victimless.

        Sure you can. Blaming drug abuse for that mugging is like blaming poverty for a liquor store robbery, or libido for prostitution. Related, but distinct.

        I'm guessing PSH didn't mug anyone to support his habit, who was his victim?

        Not condoning or even excusing drug use, I just disagree with celebrating the destruction it creates. (I certainly didn't cheer when Layne Staley died…) Perhaps that's an unpopular opinion.

        Here's another: as long as you aren't infringing on someone else's freedoms, do what thou wilt. Personal agency, autonomy, and sovereignty grant us the right to make both good and bad personal decisions and to bear the consequences of those choices.

        Anyway, I'll ignore his insult and offer that I think Chris may have meant the Righteous and not the Everly Brothers.

        Think it, be it.

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          davito
          Joined: 27 Oct 2011

          Thx Gav for that. i grew up in places where it was 'normal' seeing junkies hitting their gear up everyday, even when you sat in the baths as a 12 year old we were always on the look out not getting stabbed by a needle or walk on an needle lying around, which might be infected. I wrote about it in another thread about Zürich platzspitz followed by letten. Being affected by a death in the closer Family circle due to the result of abusing H and people in my nearer circle of other hard stuff its certainly not victimless. Behind every Death or ones sufferings are people suffering too from it 😞

          Cheers,
          David

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            EastWest
            Joined: 3 May 2012

            Could of swore I just read about the Righteous Everly Brothers dissin Star Wars whilst pissing on the Beatles albums in the midst of being unsure of whether to mourn PSH because their brains were victims of a smack habit that seemed to cause controversy! Is was it all just here say and propaganda? I'll ask my denim.

            Sorry to hear some of your backgrounds above.

            Unpopular opinion: I like the majority of women drivers….....cause I've got all the feckin time in the world o'feckn course!

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              EastWest
              Joined: 3 May 2012

              No offence meant Paula x

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                Megatron1505
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                Joined: 10 Jul 2011

                Honestly, on the drugs and celebrity deaths issues I am never going to agree with you Mclaine, and I'm guessing that is just down to our personal views on the issues. In the interests of forum status quo I'm backing out of this debate.

                David, I'm sorry for your experiences and loss.

                Made in England, clothed in Japan, fed in America and drunk in Belgium !

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                  mclaincausey
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                  Joined: 12 Apr 2013

                  Yeah that's the last I was going to say about it anyway; sorry if I offended, I overreacted because addiction has taken a lot of people from me.

                  Think it, be it.

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                    mclaincausey
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                    Joined: 12 Apr 2013

                    While I appreciate their place in history and their influence on bands that don't, the Ramones suuuuuuuuuuuuuuck.

                    Think it, be it.

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                      bertoni
                      Joined: 17 Oct 2010

                      @mclaincausey:

                      Yeah that's the last I was going to say about it anyway; sorry if I offended, I overreacted because addiction has taken a lot of people from me.

                      I can sympathise here Mclain….experienced both drugs and the losses...lost a fair few friends to Heroin along the way. Often those who struggled to fit in or find their place in a society such as ours. Despite these painful losses, I seriously advocate the wholesale legalisation of drugs, a position supported by a number of drug charities in the UK. An opinion infamously espoused by Judge Pickles here in England during the 90s. An unpopular opinion but hey, that's the name of the game here right? Recall a Guardian series of reports about Heroin...dispelled a great many myths. For example, 100% pure smack is no more or less harmful than sugar for the human organism.

                      http://www.theguardian.com/politics/2001/jun/14/drugsandalcohol.socialsciences

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                        bertoni
                        Joined: 17 Oct 2010

                        Not much of a Ramones fan meself either…

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                          RocknRoll
                          Joined: 29 Nov 2011

                          Insulting the Ramones makes Baby Jesus cry.

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                            Seul
                            Joined: 24 Nov 2009

                            Fuck the baby Jesus.

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                              RocknRoll
                              Joined: 29 Nov 2011

                              Bloody Belgian. Tintin fancier.

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                                babyknight
                                啓蒙家
                                Joined: 19 Feb 2011

                                I kind of like it when there's a new post in the Villains thread.

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                                  Seul
                                  Joined: 24 Nov 2009

                                  Terrific example of a truly unpop-up. Good to see you btw, babyknight  🙂

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                                  • babyknightB
                                    babyknight
                                    啓蒙家
                                    Joined: 19 Feb 2011

                                    haha, thanks!

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                                      Megatron1505
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                                      Joined: 10 Jul 2011

                                      Denim and workwear is becoming too much like couture fashion. Some of the things I see people lauding these days make me both depressed and confused. Basically dudes wearing a costume.

                                      At least a brand like RRL admits that they are fashion focused, some other brands I see out there (and the folks wearing it) look down on that whilst doing exactly the same thing.

                                      (Not referring to IH at all here btw)

                                      Made in England, clothed in Japan, fed in America and drunk in Belgium !

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                                      • GilesG
                                        Giles
                                        IHUK Crew
                                        Joined: 22 Sept 2009

                                        It's been the same for years if not decades.  I can't be arsed to give a shit…..

                                        "OK face up to it - you're useless but generally pretty honest and straightforward . . . it's a rare combination of qualities that I have come to admire in you" - Geo 2011

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                                          Megatron1505
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                                          Joined: 10 Jul 2011

                                          Fair play G, maybe it's just a symptom of my exposure to it these days. What we see and read on the internet fill the empty spaces of our minds….. Of which I have many.

                                          Made in England, clothed in Japan, fed in America and drunk in Belgium !

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