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imo the waist is going to shrink after said wash…by wearing them when soaking, the waist/denim has to way to go so no shrinkage is happening. when washed on its own, the denim in the waist is going to shrink since nothing is there to keep it from doing that!
i'd say hot soak and wear them while doing so and after that, i'd just soak'em cold or wash'em cold. also wear them while they're still damp, that way you can stretch them back to your desired fit way easier as when they're dry! -
G etc. have more experience than myself for sure, but in my opinion if you are happy with the waist pre-soak you shouldn't worry. My flat heads, which are notoriously difficult to stretch back, were snug in the waist at first and after a hot wash shrunk 2 inches. They stretched back lickity split, so imo only worry about how tight everything else is. The waist will stretch.
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So…..what sort of denim are we dealing with again?
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G, you are wise!
No I'm not, but the question is akin to "what are the best tyres to put on my bike?"
We need more data to give a considered response.
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Have you considered putting cloves in his cigarettes?
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Punch him in the nuts every time he lights up near you.
