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      davito
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      And to Quote our fellow Sugar Mountain few pages back with nice info

      @Sugar:

      Far as I know, the two companies are completely separate now. I have also chatted with the guys at Take5 about the same subject! (I think my wife was reading Lightning in the corner ;))

      @Sugar:

      A little more info… Toys McCoy is run by Hiroshi Okamoto (the guy on the right in the pic below). He split with the McCoys that came to be owned by Hitoshi Tsujimoto of NYLON in the 1990s as I understand it. Toys McCoy sub brands include McHill, the Steve McQueen line and Buco.

      And an interesting blog entry:

      The McCoys at this point were perhaps the most relevant vintage replica company anywhere in the world. There were others however that sat on the peripherals that were equally proficient like Pherrows and Buzz Rickson and even the original conception of Evis produced some amazingly beautiful garments. These companies were everything that I came to associate with integrity and authenticity and for many years I was a die hard customer. Sometime during the 2000's I began to feel uneasy about many of these Japanese companies and the direction that they were taking or not taking as the case may have been. The McCoys underwent a strange break up of partnerships that is forever difficult to understand unless you are an insider and rumours ran amok that the president had squandered the profits on ridiculous things including a B-17 bomber. As it happened a new Real McCoys / Toys McCoys emerged but it was different with Hiroshi Okamoto at the helm gone was the feeling of ultra authenticity and stripped down military utilitarianism and what replaced it was an air of safeness, a cutesy world of Disney characters and the over exploited Felix the Cat icon that smacked of the same Japanese-ness that exploits Hello Kitty or Captain Santa, essentially I felt the Real McCoys had become the Cockpit, over indulgent, over detailed and overpriced.

      http://papanuisays.blogspot.co.uk/2012/06/critiquing-market-lets-be-honest.html

      Cheers,
      David

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      • mclaincauseyM
        mclaincausey
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        There was also the (ugly?) split between the JP and NZ RMC branches.  The latter markets their jackets now in Japan as The Few, though globally as RMC NZ.

        Think it, be it.

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        • Chiba J.C
          Chiba J.
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          Rainbow Country is another split off from the ol McCoys clan.

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            superfuzz
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            "the president had squandered the profits on ridiculous things including a B-17 bomber"!!!!!!!!!!!!

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            • natehateN
              natehate
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              rainbow country was also a really bad tv show

              don't you know there ain't no devil? only god when he's drunk!

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                beautiful_FrEaK
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                and Rainbow County is the name of the official UES web shop
                too off-topic?

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                • Max PowerM
                  Max Power
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                  Yes, indeed 😉

                  But this quote is fucking awesome:
                  @superfuzz:

                  "the president had squandered the profits on ridiculous things including a B-17 bomber"!!!!!!!!!!!!

                  @elclintor:

                  > I don't care what people say.. The Max Power way is the right way…

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                  • Chiba J.C
                    Chiba J.
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                    If you go to the Real McCoys shop in Tokyo, you can see the remnants of all that squandering.

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                    • QinhanQ
                      Qinhan
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                      ^ The Real McCoy's shop in Tokyo is indeed awesome.

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                      • GilesG
                        Giles
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                        And it is in the same building that houses our design office….

                        "OK face up to it - you're useless but generally pretty honest and straightforward . . . it's a rare combination of qualities that I have come to admire in you" - Geo 2011

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                          leeb
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                          Hello, I've been reading the forum for a quite long time but this is my first ever post. Hopefully the first of many. I've found a lot of really useful info about RMC here so thanks to all who contribute.

                          What I'd like is a little bit of advice and opinion about the fit of an N-1 I've just bought. I'm not 100% convinced on the sizing at the moment. Particularly the body/arm lengths. I've read elsewhere that the shoulders will give a little with wear and that the alpaca will flatten down so really not sure what to do with regards to returning and sizing up or sticking with what I have.

                          I'm 6'1" and have a 38. Opinions/constructive feedback all greatly received. Apologies for the poor quality photo!

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                          • Jordan23J
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                            IMO 40 would be better!…just my 0.02.

                            Enjoy ya addiction!

                            AE

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                            • mclaincauseyM
                              mclaincausey
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                              Sounds like I need to fly to Tokyo soon.

                              Think it, be it.

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                              • ArabitA
                                Arabit
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                                From what I see, body length seems to be good but arm length appears to be 0.5 inches short

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                                • ChrisC
                                  Chris
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                                  I would recommend changing to size 40.  The sleeves and body look short and it looks like you don't have a lot of room the shoulders.

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                                    grandmasterben
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                                    I really Iike that fit but I do like jackets/shirts on the shorter side. What are you hesitant about? Does the chest feel tight at all or reasonably loose? From what I can see it all looks really good and if the chest and shoulders are comfortable then I personally feel that a 40 might look a little sloppy.

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                                    • seanoconoS
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                                      My vote is 40. We all have different preferences in terms of fit, but nothing irritates me more than short sleeves.

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                                      • hajdukH
                                        hajduk
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                                        Take a size over. Not good to be short in the arms and length with a winter deck. It can works if It was a denim jacket type III. This was my opinion 😉 good luck man.

                                        Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

                                        "Ignorance, allied with power, is the most ferocious enemy justice can have" James Baldwin.

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                                          leeb
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                                          Thanks to everyone who has replied, really appreciate your time.

                                          Seems the general consensus is the same as my gut feeling about the jacket.

                                          Of course since I chose to go for 38 the 40 is now sold out at Superdenim. Had a feeling whichever I chose was going to be the wrong one!

                                          Since getting switched onto the brand a couple of months back I've bought a couple of sweats, the 004 denim, DD chinos, a couple of shirts and basic t's and have got the sizing right first time on everything. I suppose my good run was due to come to an end!

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                                            cecil
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                                            Can you say something about the fit on the DD chinos? Seems they run large in the waist so size down shuld be the case?

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