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The Real McCoys

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    Giles
    IHUK Crew
    Joined: 22 Sept 2009

    Jeez, the German version must be super bad…. 😃 😃 😃 😃

    "OK face up to it - you're useless but generally pretty honest and straightforward . . . it's a rare combination of qualities that I have come to admire in you" - Geo 2011

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      davito
      Joined: 27 Oct 2011

      Haha yeah G 🙂 🙂

      Cheers,
      David

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        davito
        Joined: 27 Oct 2011

        And to Quote our fellow Sugar Mountain few pages back with nice info

        @Sugar:

        Far as I know, the two companies are completely separate now. I have also chatted with the guys at Take5 about the same subject! (I think my wife was reading Lightning in the corner ;))

        @Sugar:

        A little more info… Toys McCoy is run by Hiroshi Okamoto (the guy on the right in the pic below). He split with the McCoys that came to be owned by Hitoshi Tsujimoto of NYLON in the 1990s as I understand it. Toys McCoy sub brands include McHill, the Steve McQueen line and Buco.

        And an interesting blog entry:

        The McCoys at this point were perhaps the most relevant vintage replica company anywhere in the world. There were others however that sat on the peripherals that were equally proficient like Pherrows and Buzz Rickson and even the original conception of Evis produced some amazingly beautiful garments. These companies were everything that I came to associate with integrity and authenticity and for many years I was a die hard customer. Sometime during the 2000's I began to feel uneasy about many of these Japanese companies and the direction that they were taking or not taking as the case may have been. The McCoys underwent a strange break up of partnerships that is forever difficult to understand unless you are an insider and rumours ran amok that the president had squandered the profits on ridiculous things including a B-17 bomber. As it happened a new Real McCoys / Toys McCoys emerged but it was different with Hiroshi Okamoto at the helm gone was the feeling of ultra authenticity and stripped down military utilitarianism and what replaced it was an air of safeness, a cutesy world of Disney characters and the over exploited Felix the Cat icon that smacked of the same Japanese-ness that exploits Hello Kitty or Captain Santa, essentially I felt the Real McCoys had become the Cockpit, over indulgent, over detailed and overpriced.

        http://papanuisays.blogspot.co.uk/2012/06/critiquing-market-lets-be-honest.html

        Cheers,
        David

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          mclaincausey
          見習いボス
          Joined: 12 Apr 2013

          There was also the (ugly?) split between the JP and NZ RMC branches.  The latter markets their jackets now in Japan as The Few, though globally as RMC NZ.

          Think it, be it.

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            Chiba J.
            Joined: 15 Oct 2011

            Rainbow Country is another split off from the ol McCoys clan.

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              superfuzz
              Joined: 31 Dec 2012

              "the president had squandered the profits on ridiculous things including a B-17 bomber"!!!!!!!!!!!!

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                natehate
                啓蒙家
                Joined: 18 Jun 2012

                rainbow country was also a really bad tv show

                don't you know there ain't no devil? only god when he's drunk!

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                  beautiful_FrEaK
                  Raw and Unwashed
                  Joined: 15 Jun 2010

                  and Rainbow County is the name of the official UES web shop
                  too off-topic?

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                    Max Power
                    Raw and Unwashed
                    Joined: 31 Oct 2010

                    Yes, indeed 😉

                    But this quote is fucking awesome:
                    @superfuzz:

                    "the president had squandered the profits on ridiculous things including a B-17 bomber"!!!!!!!!!!!!

                    @elclintor:

                    > I don't care what people say.. The Max Power way is the right way…

                    last edited by 5 Dec 2013, 08:47 1 Reply Last reply Reply Quote 0
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                      Chiba J.
                      Joined: 15 Oct 2011

                      If you go to the Real McCoys shop in Tokyo, you can see the remnants of all that squandering.

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                        Qinhan
                        啓蒙家
                        Joined: 22 Oct 2011

                        ^ The Real McCoy's shop in Tokyo is indeed awesome.

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                          Giles
                          IHUK Crew
                          Joined: 22 Sept 2009

                          And it is in the same building that houses our design office….

                          "OK face up to it - you're useless but generally pretty honest and straightforward . . . it's a rare combination of qualities that I have come to admire in you" - Geo 2011

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                            leeb
                            Joined: 7 Dec 2013

                            Hello, I've been reading the forum for a quite long time but this is my first ever post. Hopefully the first of many. I've found a lot of really useful info about RMC here so thanks to all who contribute.

                            What I'd like is a little bit of advice and opinion about the fit of an N-1 I've just bought. I'm not 100% convinced on the sizing at the moment. Particularly the body/arm lengths. I've read elsewhere that the shoulders will give a little with wear and that the alpaca will flatten down so really not sure what to do with regards to returning and sizing up or sticking with what I have.

                            I'm 6'1" and have a 38. Opinions/constructive feedback all greatly received. Apologies for the poor quality photo!

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                              Jordan23
                              Joined: 19 Nov 2011

                              IMO 40 would be better!…just my 0.02.

                              Enjoy ya addiction!

                              AE

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                                mclaincausey
                                見習いボス
                                Joined: 12 Apr 2013

                                Sounds like I need to fly to Tokyo soon.

                                Think it, be it.

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                                  Arabit
                                  Joined: 19 Jun 2012

                                  From what I see, body length seems to be good but arm length appears to be 0.5 inches short

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                                    Chris
                                    Raw and Unwashed
                                    Joined: 28 Jun 2010

                                    I would recommend changing to size 40.  The sleeves and body look short and it looks like you don't have a lot of room the shoulders.

                                    last edited by 7 Dec 2013, 21:02 1 Reply Last reply Reply Quote 0
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                                      grandmasterben
                                      Joined: 27 Aug 2011

                                      I really Iike that fit but I do like jackets/shirts on the shorter side. What are you hesitant about? Does the chest feel tight at all or reasonably loose? From what I can see it all looks really good and if the chest and shoulders are comfortable then I personally feel that a 40 might look a little sloppy.

                                      last edited by 7 Dec 2013, 21:04 1 Reply Last reply Reply Quote 0
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                                        seanocono
                                        Joined: 17 Oct 2012

                                        My vote is 40. We all have different preferences in terms of fit, but nothing irritates me more than short sleeves.

                                        last edited by 7 Dec 2013, 22:30 1 Reply Last reply Reply Quote 0
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                                          hajduk
                                          啓蒙家
                                          Joined: 14 Jul 2010

                                          Take a size over. Not good to be short in the arms and length with a winter deck. It can works if It was a denim jacket type III. This was my opinion 😉 good luck man.

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                                          "Ignorance, allied with power, is the most ferocious enemy justice can have" James Baldwin.

                                          last edited by 8 Dec 2013, 08:30 1 Reply Last reply Reply Quote 0
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