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    • Spring Son of LightS
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      So I'm pretty ignorant about boots and shoes. My nicest pair are some Allen Edmonds brogues. I wonder if someone could shed some light for me about prices. Why, for example, are most Vibergs $150-$300 more than say Alden's boots? Alden is similarly a historic company who makes top notch stuff. Is it just that Viberg is smaller? $500 for a pair a boots is a lot, but it's worth it for quality make, like Alden. I just wonder what justifies coming close to a grand? I'm asking this excluding collabs since I suspect those are pricier for obvious reasons.

      I know there are a ton of factors that go into determining the retail cost of a boot,  I'm just curious to know why I should buy the more expensive over the slightly less? (Setting aside aesthetic differences, I'm talking quality, materials, etc, not one style as opposed to another). Ready…go! I'm ready to be schooled.

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      • mclaincauseyM
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        Economics maaaaan.  Supply/demand/elasticity.

        Think it, be it.

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        • Spring Son of LightS
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          @mclaincausey:

          Economics maaaaan.  Supply/demand/elasticity.

          Well this was my assumption. I'm not saying. Viberg workboot isn't worth $800, I'm just trying to understand if it's worth it FOR ME. I'm in the market for a work boot and have listed after the Alden 405 many a moon. Might just go that route.

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          • mclaincauseyM
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            I'd take a look at a pair of each if possible. Alden is nice. Peal & Co and Lobb are also, for that classy Cordovan workboot.

            Think it, be it.

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            • D
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              Hei ssol you might also take a look at red wings beckman or iron ranger, great quality, build and look too imho. Or i find the lonewolf carpenter boots great as well like my vibergs or others. Like you said all about individual preferences. I dont know alden but would love to handle one one day as they seem so well crafted.

              a viberg service boot is something really special for me 🙂 i love mine and was ready to pull the trigger like on two other diff models from them as well.

              Cheers,
              David

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              • GilesG
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                Vibergs are effectively bench made, that is a world of difference from the way Alden are made.  Does that make them any better?  In my opinion yes, but it is only an opinion.  I have a load of Alden shoes and boots, but I never wear them any longer and when I get a min, I will start selling them off

                "OK face up to it - you're useless but generally pretty honest and straightforward . . . it's a rare combination of qualities that I have come to admire in you" - Geo 2011

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                • natehateN
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                  i cant hear sound on vimeo videos right now????

                  don't you know there ain't no devil? only god when he's drunk!

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                  • DougNgD
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                    Can you still hear everyday sounds?

                    Sorry, I couldn't resist

                    I know violence is not the answer, I got it wrong on purpose

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                    • natehateN
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                      yes dougie
                      its just vimeo
                      everything else is playing normal?

                      don't you know there ain't no devil? only god when he's drunk!

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                      • Spring Son of LightS
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                        @Giles:

                        Vibergs are effectively bench made, that is a world of difference from the way Alden are made.  Does that make them any better?  In my opinion yes, but it is only an opinion.  I have a load of Alden shoes and boots, but I never wear them any longer and when I get a min, I will start selling them off

                        What is the difference of bench made? Is alden more like a production line?

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                        • SeruRitchiS
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                          Spring Son of Light, being an Englishman I will echo Giles's sentiment about English bench made shoes. I don't own any Alden shoes or boots, but I do own a pair of Tricker's English bench made country brogues with a commando sole. They feel totally indestructible and are the only shoes I've ever owned that a total stranger has commented on; a slightly inebriated American in a hotel elevator said to me: "Wow, those are some sexy shoes".

                          http://www.trickers.com/art_shoe_make.htm

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                          • Megatron1505M
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                            I've been off work for a couple of days with a stomach bug, bad stuff going on with digestion etc… nothing too serious just a 48 hour thing.

                            Today I feel ok, probably about 70% well, and I am meant to be commencing an all day drinking session for a mates birthday in about an hour......is this a good idea?

                            BTW: There will be some Caribbean food thrown in as well.

                            Made in England, clothed in Japan, fed in America and drunk in Belgium !

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                            • SeulS
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                              Carribean food never is a good idea. Beer always is, though… But try and drink good quality, re-fermented in the bottle and such... High alc % = good. I'm being serious btw.

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                              • Megatron1505M
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                                Right, in the absence of great beer I was going to stick with Guinness. Using the logic that it isn't too fizzy and sits heavy in the stomach rather than causing all sorts of mayhem like cheap lager.

                                Although, I cannot face a pint of cheap lager at all, just the thought of it makes me want to spew.

                                Made in England, clothed in Japan, fed in America and drunk in Belgium !

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                                • seawolfS
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                                  Just to echo what Seul said, bottle-conditioned beer (or re-fermented) is loaded with vitamin B-12 complex. It's the very stuff that alcohol depletes from your body which adds to your hangover, but the bottle-conditioned beer GIVES IT BACK!

                                  “Good design is actually a lot harder to notice than poor design, in part because good designs fit our needs so well that the design is invisible” - Don Norman

                                  @zeebeeleather

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                                  • SeulS
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                                    There you go - scientific PROOF that I'm not thàt big of an eejit after all!..

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                                    • grabby22G
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                                      Hey guys, I just bought a pair of jeans that are about two inches loose on the waist. Bought it because it was the very last pair of the Red Cloud R400H 17oz , 25% Hemp material denim available and I just had to buy them.

                                      Ok, now for my question. Is it advisable for me to throw them inside the washing machine to get maximum shrinkage? Or will a normal hot soak give the same amount of shrinkage? Will I lose too much indigo if I throw them into the machine and if I do that, 30 minute cycle or 60 minute cycle?

                                      Thanks guys.

                                      Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

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                                      • SeulS
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                                        60' cycle, 60C°, max RPM, turn inside out. You won't lose much/ any indigo.

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                                        • ChrisC
                                          Chris
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                                          A wash will always give you more shrinkage than a comparable temperature soak.  Follow Seul's advice.

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                                          • mclaincauseyM
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                                            "Follow Seul's advice."

                                            Oh shit, the Triumvirate must be up to something…

                                            Think it, be it.

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