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    • mclaincauseyM
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      @bagley920:

      Combinatorics? Come on bro! Haha

      Sorry, I couldn't think of another word for it 😃

      Think it, be it.

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        You can still think about the carbon footprint. I grew up in a town that was huge during the textile boom in America. And I've seen the pollution they caused. That's why I'm straight with post-weave applications to denims. When you go to the grocery store, do you buy organic or conventional?  Loomstate (kibata) denim is similar to organic and overprocessed denim is like conventional.  Please tell me otherwise.

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        • mclaincauseyM
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          I'd guess that loomstate, organic cotton denim with all organic cotton construction (nylon polyester being probably twice the carbon footprint of organic cotton, rivets being an unknown quantity, but copper mining is notorious), sourced and manufactured as locally as possible would be the most ecologically sound way to go.

          A quick Google search turned up this example: http://www.style.com/stylefile/2013/03/do-these-jeans-have-the-worlds-smallest-carbon-footprint/

          Think it, be it.

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          • SeulS
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            Or you just buy 2nd hand… Basically the only stuff I buy new is beer...

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            • derivative666D
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              This is insanely awesome I have become an unpopular topic (legend in my own time). I am a gluttonous bastard aren't I.

              "Obstacles are stepping-stones that guide us to our goals"

              "honorable mention to the bearded giant aka derivative666 for being a stand up dude & not changing with the seasons since i've been around these parts" Monday

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              • ChrisC
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                Actually, aren't you about 100 lbs less gluttonous now?

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                • Megatron1505M
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                  What you have hoarded in clothing you have ditched in food  😉

                  Made in England, clothed in Japan, fed in America and drunk in Belgium !

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                  • Finn666F
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                    @MikeC:

                    I think Rafa needs wants a new pair of Viberg boots…..

                    fixed for you 😉

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                    • Finn666F
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                      @Megatron1505:

                      Degrees Rafa, stands to reason that a guy with three pairs of boots will put far more wear on them than a guy with 10 pairs  😉
                      who said someone wants to put wear on his boots…if you just wear the boot/shoe you feel like wearing when getting outta bed, all is good and you'll have a happy day, right? good! 🙂

                      Like I said from the beginning this is just my opinion, the only reason that I'm still debating it is that validations of finance and apathy are something else I find frustrating (unpopular opinion number 2).

                      And again, I'm not making this a need vs want debate, I'm just simply stating that I don't get the seen my culture of the guys with 36 flannel shirts, 40 pairs of jeans, 29 pairs of boots, 135 tee shirts, 7 leather jackets and a partridge in a frikkin pair tree  😛

                      Exaggeration I know, but really the line has to be drawn somewhere….it's looking more than a little gauche, like Liberace but in denim and leather.

                      A great point was made by a campaign I supported earlier this year, as did many other people in this industry, about buying cheap clothing is socioeconomically irresponsible, and leads to tragedy like the factory collapse in Bangladesh. Then surely by the same token by stock piling things (anything) you are once again pushing the envelope of irresponsibility as everything you buy has a supply chain from raw material, and carbon footprint. Now, unless you are intimately aware of the provenance of every bass part of everything you buy then you are adding to the problem.

                      I just believe in responsible consumerism at all levels, if you cannot realistically give function to the thing you buy then it is a pure luxury, nothing wrong with that but when most purchases which you make are pure luxury then you are exasperating a problem which effects everyone.
                      not really sure of what i should think about this…every piece of IH (or any other brand in the denim game) is what i call luxury. but the fact of "cannot realistically give function to the thing" isn't quite right imo. if i buy/have 5 badass jackets and wear them all whenever i feel like it or whenever the weather is right for every single one of them, then they all are put into function (?) somehow...right?

                      Nice to get debate going btw  🙂

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                      • Finn666F
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                        Only because Rafa regularly loses them when out drinking…

                        never lost a pair of pants mate…and only one IHSH-27 so far, which is still "ok" in some sort of way. so i'm not that bad as you might think i am! 😉

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                        • Megatron1505M
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                          Honestly dude, I think you missed the point but no worries  😛

                          Made in England, clothed in Japan, fed in America and drunk in Belgium !

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                          • Finn666F
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                            tbh. you could totally be right with that…fucking tired and too much to read for tonight, so i just typed what came into my tired mind. with one eye half open.

                            i'm out for today...zzzzZZZZZZZZZZ!

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                            • GilesG
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                              Now, I am getting seriously bored…...

                              "OK face up to it - you're useless but generally pretty honest and straightforward . . . it's a rare combination of qualities that I have come to admire in you" - Geo 2011

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                              • Finn666F
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                                ^ that's more like a random announcement to me though!

                                the following quote is pretty damn much on point though and I should have posted sth. like this, instead of going in on the discussion.

                                @Giles:

                                ….feck you, you  feckers....

                                imo it's just ridiculous (jealousy fire?) to tell somebody that he's irresponsible, just because he (not speaking about myself here!) spends a bit more of his hard earned money on things he likes and loves.
                                fuck that! fucking life and let die… 😠
                                commenting on somebody's way of living their life is straight up bullshit...period!

                                *last post from me about this shit! thx for listening...

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                                • Megatron1505M
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                                  Rafa - I never said this was about you, in fact I said exactly what provoked my opinion. I stated an opinion and the discussion went where it went. Apologies if you're offended, but my opinion is my opinion just like anyone else's.

                                  I started this thread because I think it is good, healthy and handy to have a minority opinion to go alongside the usual opinion tide. If the forum is entirely made up of people telling each other how cool and awesome that everything is then it simply becomes white noise without validation. I think it's good for us all to hear the things with which we might not agree to keep things balanced.

                                  For what it is worth I think that if people explain themselves and their opinions with clarity and reason then why should anyone get offended? It's an opinion of a guy on the internet, not a personal attack.

                                  Obviously this might be just my opinion, and if it is then it's probably best to lock this thread down or remove it.

                                  Peace guys, I'll try to keep my opinions in check from here on in.

                                  Made in England, clothed in Japan, fed in America and drunk in Belgium !

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                                  • seanoconoS
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                                    I didn't see anything wrong with your posts , Mega.

                                    As you said, they're just one man's opinion. If you disagree, you're welcome to present a counter-argument, or just mentally come to the conclusion that they are wrong/an idiot.

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                                    • mclaincauseyM
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                                      @Megatron1505:

                                      Peace guys, I'll try to keep my opinions in check from here on in.

                                      This would be a disappointment….

                                      Think it, be it.

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                                      • injunjackI
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                                        Mega - Hear, Hear…

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                                        • derivative666D
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                                          Rafa don't get your panties in a bunch, it's about me!

                                          "Obstacles are stepping-stones that guide us to our goals"

                                          "honorable mention to the bearded giant aka derivative666 for being a stand up dude & not changing with the seasons since i've been around these parts" Monday

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                                          • SeulS
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                                            @Megatron1505:

                                            Peace guys, I'll try to keep my opinions in check from here on in.

                                            This would be a disappointment….

                                            Yeah: just cause ze Germans take it personal yet again…  😎

                                            Here, Rafa, if you wanna waste some time, go make some cookies: http://orteil.dashnet.org/cookieclicker/

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