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    Iron Heart Fall/Winter 2025 Collection Preview - Now Live

    ULTRA HEAVY RAW - IH-1955-UHR, IH-666-UHR and IH-634-UHR

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    • llvlaglneL
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      I don't think the 555 will be a big seller, look what happened with the 555-02

      "…think of a world tour as similar as to the sisterhood of the traveling pants." -LandoCal126

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        634. With same larger measurements.

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        • urbanwoodsmanU
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          @llvlaglne:

          I don't think the 555 will be a big seller, look what happened with the 555-02

          What happened?

          Aren't the 555-01 and 555-02 being rerun already?

          How many cuts "fly off the shelves" anyways?

          Btw: Agree with you 100%, Chris.

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          • llvlaglneL
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            It doesn't change the fact that they're getting a rerun but the 555-02 sold extremely slow for some reason compared to the 01.

            "…think of a world tour as similar as to the sisterhood of the traveling pants." -LandoCal126

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              I would figure the 555 is generally not a popular cut
              As the 634, Giles def said the 555-18 raw was the worst selling by far, if that's the555-2

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                I'm in for a 666

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                • derivative666D
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                  666 agreed

                  "Obstacles are stepping-stones That guide us to our goals"

                  "honorable mention to the bearded giant aka derivative666 for being a stand up dude & not changing with the seasons since i've been around these parts" Monday

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                  • RocknRollR
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                    The two ends of the spectrum are:

                    1. The financially 'safe' option. The three highest selling cuts (I think), i.e. 634, 666, BB

                    2. The 'exciting' option, i.e. something new. I liked Seul's suggestion of a cut resembling the SEIH07, and I'm also a huge fan of the Indo cut (which I'm sure would have sold like hotcakes under a different name). Both these options have a more aggressive lower leg taper than the IH standards, so dunno how Haraki would feel about this. I'm not suggesting a direct ripoff of Kiya's work, but definitively something in that direction.

                    Of course, with potential for 700+ pairs, there would be plenty of scope to slide along that spectrum, and do some blend of options 1 and 2.

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                      Backing Urbanwoodsman's idea with a strong emphasis on thigh/waist proportion.

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                        Create a "Progressive" Cut: 
                          1. Cuts like the 666, 555, and IHxB do not work for people with waists 31" and under (ME!):
                          -The top block is too small, or the thigh measurement is too small, or the knee and leg opening are too small     
                          2. Cuts like the 634 and DC4… do not work for larger folk:
                          -The knee and/or leg opening is much too large to be practical/comfortable

                        So, smaller people need a straight cut (except for some female customers), and larger people need a slight/moderate taper...

                        Why not make a cut that is a straight 634 from sizes 28-31, and then using the top block from the 634 make sizes 32-35 similar to the 666 from the mid-thigh down, and finally make sizes 36-40 similar to the 555 from the mid-thigh down?

                        Of course I am speaking with a 634 bias.  23oz. jeans should never be skin tight

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                        • babyknightB
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                          666

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                          • urbanwoodsmanU
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                            @adam313:

                            Create a "Progressive" Cut: 
                              1. Cuts like the 666, 555, and IHxB do not work for people with waists 31" and under (ME!):
                              -The top block is too small, or the thigh measurement is too small, or the knee and leg opening are too small     
                              2. Cuts like the 634 and DC4… do not work for larger folk:
                              -The knee and/or leg opening is much too large to be practical/comfortable

                            So, smaller people need a straight cut (except for some female customers), and larger people need a slight/moderate taper...

                            Why not make a cut that is a straight 634 from sizes 28-31, and then using the top block from the 634 make sizes 32-35 similar to the 666 from the mid-thigh down, and finally make sizes 36-40 similar to the 555 from the mid-thigh down?

                            Of course I am speaking with a 634 bias.  23oz. jeans should never be skin tight

                            Thanks for this. Exactly what I've been trying to say(with bias towards the bigger sizes).

                            One cut for all would be a dream. I know most of you think the 634 is that, but it's one of the most unflattering cuts I've ever seen on anyone size 34 up with inseam 32in and smaller.

                            The Final Cut would require major thigh to knee and knee to hem tapering(which IH has never done that I know of).

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                            • Finn666F
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                              adam, sounds like a plan buddy! a cut like that is what is "missing" imo…

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                                I hate sounding like one of those dudes that's obsessed with leg warmer denim, but for me the 634s cut with about a half inch smaller hem would be perfection.

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                                • llvlaglneL
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                                  Agreed with grandmasterben. Almost like TFH 3009

                                  "…think of a world tour as similar as to the sisterhood of the traveling pants." -LandoCal126

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                                  • madmondayM
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                                    love the excitement this denim produces.

                                    nope, i got no take on the cut that should be produced, but i'm on the notify list so i can see what this turns into when it happens in 2014 or 2015 (if it takes that long).

                                    head high, middle finger higher

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                                    • xtcclassicX
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                                      Obviously the 666 and 634 at the very least. I agree with grandmasterben and adam313, both those ideas sound interesting for a new cut. I love the BB01 cut, but if the rise were lower and the waist measurement was bigger it would work way better for me.

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                                      • Max PowerM
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                                        Seconding Urb and adam (and many others). The 634 cut is fantastic on guys with small waist, but 33 and above looks strange, as the leg is getting so wide. A little more taper would fix this. around 8,25" leg opening with 33/34 waist would be a great tube cut, but not a skinny one.

                                        That said, I think the 666 and 634 would sell great. The 555 cut in 23 oz - well, I don't even want to speak about comfort then. But it would sell, I'm sure.

                                        @elclintor:

                                        > I don't care what people say.. The Max Power way is the right way…

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                                        • GilesG
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                                          @fanya:

                                          If it was made once why can't it be made again?

                                          If what was made once?  If you are talking the SE collab jacket, that is a completely different denim.

                                          "OK face up to it - you're useless but generally pretty honest and straightforward . . . it's a rare combination of qualities that I have come to admire in you" - Geo 2011

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                                            I seem to be the minority but on the 634 I like the bigger legs in bigger sizes. If I want a smaller leg I just size up 1 on the 666

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