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    • mclaincauseyM
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      Nearly all modern beer features compromises and concessions to industrial production. The can just sticks in some people's craw a bit more. To each his own.

      Carbonization is an industrial process. As is bottling, canning, etc. Most of us draw the line somewhere after a wooden cask of beer we produced ourselves.

      Calling a can a slippery slope is to me the same fallacy as calling marijuana a "gateway drug.". Why isn't the cigarette, or beer, or coffee, or medication the gateway?  Because someone said so… 😉 I can assure you after 5 years of drinking kickass craft beer out of the occasional can I hate Coors more than I ever have...

      Think it, be it.

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      • mclaincauseyM
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        Ha Giles beat me to some of what I was getting at with "anything but real ale is a compromise"

        I don't like super hoppy ales, which is what I prefer, to be casked. They need carbonation IMO. Actually, nitrogen does interesting things there…

        Think it, be it.

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        • GilesG
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          @mclaincausey:

          Most of us draw the line somewhere after a wooden cask of beer we produced ourselves.

          A cask can be metal…..And actually is all we use except for super-duper special releases.....

          "OK face up to it - you're useless but generally pretty honest and straightforward . . . it's a rare combination of qualities that I have come to admire in you" - Geo 2011

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          • Megatron1505M
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            The key two words in your post were "to me"  😉

            Made in England, clothed in Japan, fed in America and drunk in Belgium !

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            • Megatron1505M
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              Actually I'm far from a purist. Just busting you balls a bit  😛

              Made in England, clothed in Japan, fed in America and drunk in Belgium !

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              • GilesG
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                @mclaincausey:

                I don't like super hoppy ales, which is what I prefer, to be casked. They need carbonation IMO. Actually, nitrogen does interesting things there…

                We make a single and double IPA neither of which requires carbonation…..

                "OK face up to it - you're useless but generally pretty honest and straightforward . . . it's a rare combination of qualities that I have come to admire in you" - Geo 2011

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                • GilesG
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                  And I'm just being pedantic…..

                  "OK face up to it - you're useless but generally pretty honest and straightforward . . . it's a rare combination of qualities that I have come to admire in you" - Geo 2011

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                  • Megatron1505M
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                    It's the English way G.

                    Made in England, clothed in Japan, fed in America and drunk in Belgium !

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                    • mclaincauseyM
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                      Not saying they require it, I'm saying that for my palate the flavor and mouthfeel of really hoppy beers benefit from a little extra gas.

                      Think it, be it.

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                        Wow look what I started. For me the can works well because I can throw it in the recycling bin and its out of sight. Alternatively the bottles build up on the counter and make me look like a drunkard.

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                        • mclaincauseyM
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                          Also, I have a pool. Glass is a no-no at a pool.

                          Think it, be it.

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                          • joesaintjohnJ
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                            Caldera…such a great pool beer.

                            http://beeradvocate.com/beer/profile/1075/10784

                            Fat dudes need good clothes too.

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                            • emceeQE
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                              @mclaincausey:

                              I don't like super hoppy ales, which is what I prefer, to be casked. They need carbonation IMO. Actually, nitrogen does interesting things there…

                              Oh nitrogen.  I'm a sucker for anything served on nitro…

                              Swung by Short's brewery today and enjoyed some of what they had to offer...

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                              • SeulS
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                                @jacoavlu:

                                Alternatively the bottles build up on the counter and make me look like a drunkard.

                                Well I can carry me bottles into the store for recycling… Geuze bottles get me 20 €urocent a pop... And even though yes, you pay the deposit when you buy the beers, it's still fun to bring in a whole case of empty beers and be paid for it... Money always goes to beer though... Neverending cycle...

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                                • mclaincauseyM
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                                  Oh nitrogen.  I'm a sucker for anything served on nitro…

                                  Swung by Short's brewery today and enjoyed some of what they had to offer...

                                  Cool–never heard of em but your state has some great ones, including obviously Bell's. Minnesota also has some great ones, but the state is behind in terms of quantity. Puritanical laws haven't helped matters, though that's changing. Surly and its cult following and a grass roots campaign helped change some of those laws. And now they're building a $20MM destination brewery. It will probably be selling nationally soon, which is good news for everyone. Their beers are outstanding.

                                  The first hoppy nitrogen push I ever had was last year. I can't remember what it was but having that creamy head with a hoppy ale was relevatory. Surprised this isn't a bit more common.

                                  Think it, be it.

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                                    Breakfast with cider… Sure it's technically not beer but it sparkles and goes down smoothly...

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                                      Part II: yummy!..

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                                      • emceeQE
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                                        @mclaincausey:

                                        Cool–never heard of em but your state has some great ones, including obviously Bell's. Minnesota also has some great ones, but the state is behind in terms of quantity. Puritanical laws haven't helped matters, though that's changing. Surly and its cult following and a grass roots campaign helped change some of those laws. And now they're building a $20MM destination brewery. It will probably be selling nationally soon, which is good news for everyone. Their beers are outstanding.

                                        Glad to hear laws are changing to make craft beer more doable in MN.  In MI we're currently working on introducing legislation to make it smaller breweries don't need to go through a distributor to sell bottles in stores, which would make even more of our beer more widely available.

                                        Short's is easily my favorite brewery in MI.  Great beer, it's run by some of the nicest people in the world, and they are never afraid to get weird and experiment with their beer.  If you ever come upon anything by them I highly recommend it.

                                        Larry Bell, the founder/head of Bell's, is a royal asshole though so I try and avoid supporting his business even though some of his beer is fantastic.  Founder's, Arcadia, New Holland, and Right Brain are some other excellent MI breweries that are starting to become more widely distributed.

                                        @mclaincausey:

                                        The first hoppy nitrogen push I ever had was last year. I can't remember what it was but having that creamy head with a hoppy ale was relevatory. Surprised this isn't a bit more common.

                                        I've mostly had stouts on nitro, but I recently had Founder's pale ale on both CO2 and nitro and it really opened my eye's to how much the gas can effect the beer.  There was the entirely different mouth feel of course, but the nitro muted the hops a bit and allowed for some of the more subtle flavors to come out.  Twas fantastic…

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                                        • emceeQE
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                                          Actually stopped by Right brain the other day too.  Their pub is a great space and it has a TIE fighter hanging from the ceiling so it gets bonus points…

                                          Had a cucumber basil saison known as Cool Hand Cuke that was top notch…

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                                          • mclaincauseyM
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                                            A shame about Bell being a dick.  Fortunately, I have plenty of other ways I can go.  I used to drink Two Hearted a lot but there are so many other beers out there that it's no longer a staple on those increasingly rare occasions where I drink beer (trying to eliminate a beer belly I came by honestly 🙂 )

                                            We get Founder's and New Holland here, and I love them.  I'd have to check on those others.  I'll have to try Short's as well.

                                            Ever since a visit to Russian River in Cali I've added super sour beers to my repertoire.  I guess I'm a man of extremes, super bitter, or super sour if I'm going to burn calories on beer 🙂  In for a penny, in for a pound on those I suppose…

                                            Think it, be it.

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