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    • Megatron1505M
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      I can't make my mind up if Mister Freedom is genius or lunacy. I know that a lot of people who I respect the opinion of tell me that it is simply the best clothing available, and Christophe Loiron is a genius, and honestly I do not have enough experience of his stuff to state a full opinion.

      I do respect that he has his own style though, that appeals to me greatly.

      Made in England, clothed in Japan, fed in America and drunk in Belgium !

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        I did not read that about MF lol 😉 hehe

        Cheers,
        David

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        • mclaincauseyM
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          He has some great shit. Not into the weird pockets and I hate the belly flap thing he does sometime. A few garments I've seen have awesome fabric and details and then a couple of weird things that put me off.

          Think it, be it.

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          • Finn666F
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            MF has a few super great pieces and then again some others that are pretty crazy and not for everyone imo, that's true!
            most of the things would look pretty shitty on me, but super dope on others…so I'm a bit careful with saying that I don't like it all!
            Christoph is a genius and from what I know he really doesn't gives a damn about what someone thinks about the way he makes his clothes, shoes, etc. ...and for that matter, I think it's pretty awesome, since he's selling a shitload of stuff, just by following his personal taste and designed things HE likes!

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            • madmondayM
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              funny thread, just cause folks are usually SOOOO polite.

              i'll hold out as i spew enough in regular threads . . . .

              head high, middle finger higher

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              • injunjackI
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                But I'll play

                Fuck your Prius…

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                • Megatron1505M
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                  Kids should be brought up watching stuff like Rambo and American Werewolf in London, I think it's healthy to desensitise a child to movie violence and helps them to separate fantasy from reality. I guarantee that the kids who's mothers never let them watch Jaws are more likely to be serial killers or sex offenders (based on absolutely no evidence), as violence becomes forbidden fruit and oh so tempting.

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                  • mclaincauseyM
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                    Well, citing Jaws raises an interesting question.  Is animal-on-man violence the same as man-on-man as far as desensitizing people goes?  I don't think it is.  I think showing something like Friday the 13th to a child versus Jaws is much different…

                    Think it, be it.

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                    • bagley920B
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                      That's a huge issue over here. The video games are so violent these days that kids as young as 10 think nothing of finding a gun and shooting someone.

                      Desensitizing a kid must also come with life lessons, not just "here, watch this movie"

                      If I am not I, who will be? -Henry David Thoreau

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                      • Megatron1505M
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                        Maybe, but the key is to help the child to differentiate fantasy violence from actual violence. For instance I would say that it is worse to allow a child to play Call Of Duty than it is to let them watch Friday the 13th, as Call Of Duty purposely exposes the reality element of violence.

                        Made in England, clothed in Japan, fed in America and drunk in Belgium !

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                        • bagley920B
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                          I would agree with COD

                          Sadly, alot of parents let the kid decide what is fantasy vs reality and there in lies the problem. Good parenting vs bad parenting

                          This is kind of a hot button issue for me being a new father and seeing how the kids of our friends act, it's ridiculous what some parents let their kids do

                          If I am not I, who will be? -Henry David Thoreau

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                          • Megatron1505M
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                            Putting the decision in the hands of the child is ridiculous, and to make clear my own stance as a father, my son is 7 and he has watched Jaws but not Rambo or American Werewolf, and he is not allowed to play COD though most of his friends are and I have no doubt that he has when he has been to their houses.

                            When Tommy is a little older I may show him movies with more of a fantasy violence angle (Conan The Barbarian etc…), and after that will come Rambo and all the other 80's acton flicks. All the time I will watch them with him and gauge his response, as this has to be the responsibility of the parent. To my mind, letting you kid go and watch all this stuff with mates at a young age is the irresponsible way to go with it.

                            As a boy I watched American Werewolf in London with my dad when I was 5 years old and it terrified me, but it also taught me a valuable lesson about separating fantasy and reality violence that I think is missing from a lot of kids these days. I'm not saying that my dad did the right thing, as I was too young, but the lesson worked. My father simply did not believe in censorship at all when it came to movies.

                            Made in England, clothed in Japan, fed in America and drunk in Belgium !

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                              @mclaincausey:

                              Well, citing Jaws raises an interesting question.

                              Also my first thought/reaction. Huge jump from Rambo. Jaws for the most part is a psychological movie moreso than blood/guts/gore. Get your point tho. To the core point, I watched 'A Nightmare on Elm Street' when I was around 9 or 10, it scared the fuck out of me. Not at the time, and not because I thought it was real, rather the psychological concepts. #overshare? #wrongthread?

                              I agree that kids should not be sheltered for the realities of the world. You can't always shelter them, better to let them live and see and be supportive.

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                                @bagley920:

                                I would agree with COD

                                Sadly, alot of parents let the kid decide what is fantasy vs reality and there in lies the problem. Good parenting vs bad parenting

                                This is kind of a hot button issue for me being a new father and seeing how the kids of our friends act, it's ridiculous what some parents let their kids do

                                Welcome to the world of parenthood!  When you have no kids, you don't really notice it.  But once you brought a child of your own into the world, it is a totally different story.  I can't fathom how many times I said it to myself, WTF your parents let you do that?

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                                  @Omega:

                                  @bagley920:

                                  I would agree with COD

                                  Sadly, alot of parents let the kid decide what is fantasy vs reality and there in lies the problem. Good parenting vs bad parenting

                                  This is kind of a hot button issue for me being a new father and seeing how the kids of our friends act, it's ridiculous what some parents let their kids do

                                  Welcome to the world of parenthood!  What you have no kids, you don't really notice it.  But once you brought a child of your own into the world, it is a totally different story.  I can't fathom how many times I said it to myself, WTF your parents let you do that?

                                  I saw a kid literally walk into a windowed door of a store because he refused to look up from his Nintendo DS. I know I'm not supposed to but I laughed out loud and got an evil eye from the mom. I wanted to yell back at her "teach your kid how to walk with his head up; evolution bitch!"

                                  If I am not I, who will be? -Henry David Thoreau

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                                    I won't be so kind, the devil in me will say "next time, it will be a car"

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                                    • bagley920B
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                                      Sadly, I have seen a kid walk into a parked car before texting, but this was like a 17 year old

                                      If I am not I, who will be? -Henry David Thoreau

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                                      • Megatron1505M
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                                        Dude, I did that yesterday, it has nothing to do with youth and everything to do with being oblivious to your surroundings (I've been doing this since well before iPhones were invented  😉 )

                                        Made in England, clothed in Japan, fed in America and drunk in Belgium !

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                                        • bagley920B
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                                          You just lost cool points Gav!

                                          If I am not I, who will be? -Henry David Thoreau

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                                          • Megatron1505M
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                                            I think they fell out of my pocket when I hit the car  😉

                                            Made in England, clothed in Japan, fed in America and drunk in Belgium !

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