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    • ChrisC
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      There's a difference between obsolete because it's more expensive to make, like shuttle loomed denim, and obsolete because it's not good, like cotton thread.  Companies like Strike Gold use cotton instead of poly because they like the look of popped stitches and disintegrated threads.  Personally, I don't feel like repairing my jeans every few weeks or watching the stitching unravel.

      Poly thread is stronger, both in abrasion resistance and snapping strength.  It is more colorfast, doesn't shed lint and it's less expensive.  By any objective measure, it's better.  The aesthetic argument for cotton thread doesn't sway me in the slightest.

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      • Megatron1505M
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        It is no coincidence that Samurai Jeans use cotton thread and are probably the most famous brand for crotch blow outs.

        Made in England, clothed in Japan, fed in America and drunk in Belgium !

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        • mclaincauseyM
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          I do wonder if this is really an unpopular opinion here, but we shall see; I'll let you know when I start having problems with my all-cottons (this would be a first, I have a pair of beaten up all cottons that is semi-retired and pristine, has made it through farm and other hard labor, bicycling, etc).

          But to your point, a bunch of the premium Japanese brands (PBJ, Oni, Joe McCoy, SG, Mister Freedom) use or sometimes use all cotton thread, and there are a bunch of filthy bastards out there who never wash their jeans.  I'd think this would be worse for cotton than for polyester.  And a lot of the blowouts that I've seen were the denim, not the constructional stitching…

          There is a certain rich irony in organic cotton and natural indigo being stitched together with petroleum-derived fibers.  This doesn't bother me one bit, just noting an irony... 🙂

          Think it, be it.

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          • Megatron1505M
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            Two things I am sure of through 6 years on SuFu.

            1. Jeans with cotton threads suffer infinitely more crotch blow outs.

            2. This is due to the use of cotton threads.

            Made in England, clothed in Japan, fed in America and drunk in Belgium !

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            • B
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              Lock stitch is also better than chainstitch (from the durability point of view), yet most prefer the chainstitch for its authenticity (Lockstitch also leads to roping…less pronounced but still)

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              • mclaincauseyM
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                That's exactly what was in my brain when I mentioned that vintage and practicality aren't always hand in hand.

                Ok, back on topic. Pabst Blue Ribbon is, and has always been, swill.  Hipsters think they look like blue collar working stiffs when they drink it. To me they look like people who have no taste buds. There are better cheap beers if you can't afford a nicer beer as well.

                Think it, be it.

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                • SeulS
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                  Hipsters have worse taste buds than us working class heroes ey…  🙂

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                  • Megatron1505M
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                    We have the same thing going on in the UK with Carling, Carlsberg, Fosters, Stella etc… Aldi sell a German beer called Steinhauser, £4 for 6 bottles, and this is the greatest cheap beer available in the UK (top tip for UK residents)  😉

                    Made in England, clothed in Japan, fed in America and drunk in Belgium !

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                    • SeulS
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                      Or just contact me and 'ave a cheap Belgian hollie ey!..

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                      • mclaincauseyM
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                        We have a local cheap ass American style Pilsener called Grain Belt here. I love it. Then again, as far as cheap swill goes, I like High Life…  So I have an adaptable palate.

                        The worst local beer is this shit called Hamm's. this cocktail lounge carries it ironically and I had it after one of the finest Sazeracs I've ever enjoyed thinking a change of pace would be nice. It was baaaaaad.  Almost retroactively ruined the Sazerac.  Almost.

                        Think it, be it.

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                        • tatmantallT
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                          My father used to use hamms beer in some concoction he used on our lawn when I was growing up. Must have worked because our deck and yard was featured in Better Hones and Gardens when I was in high school. Forget drinking that garbage tho!

                          "I know to you it may sound strange, but I wish it would rain…"- The Temptations

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                          • mclaincauseyM
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                            ^That it works as a pesticide and fertilizer is no surprise!

                            Think it, be it.

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                            • riffblaster generalR
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                              i don't know if it's an unpopular opinion but i think grapefruit tastes like puke.

                              PUT DOWN THAT STARBUCKS, PICK UP THAT GNARBUCKS!!

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                              • JamesMargJ
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                                Americans who say 'erbs' or 'urbs', instead of 'herbs.'
                                Angers me to no end…

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                                • seanoconoS
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                                  ^I've never heard an American pronounce the "h" in "herb"; unless they are speaking the shortened version of the male name Herbert. That's the way it's pronounced in America. We could be here all day arguing over regional pronounciations.

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                                  • GilesG
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                                    @JamesMarg:

                                    Americans who say 'erbs' or 'urbs', instead of 'herbs.'
                                    Angers me to no end…

                                    Read "Mother Tongue" by Bill Bryson.  One of his assertions in that book, is that American pronunciation of English is truer to the way English used to be spoken by the English than the way the English themselves now speak

                                    "OK face up to it - you're useless but generally pretty honest and straightforward . . . it's a rare combination of qualities that I have come to admire in you" - Geo 2011

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                                    • Megatron1505M
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                                      Aluminum/ Aluminium  😶

                                      Made in England, clothed in Japan, fed in America and drunk in Belgium !

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                                      • JamesMargJ
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                                        Sean: Interesting, i'm sure that I have heard an American pronounce 'Herbs' with the H before… Maybe i'm dreaming.
                                        As I am from Australia, my first trip to America was actually the first time i have ever heard 'urbs' and I was utterly confused about what they wanted to season my steak with...

                                        Giles: Great point! I have read a little of Bryson's work in 'A Short History of Nearly Everything.' I would love to learn a little about ye olde English linguistics and history, I wonder why the Americans would have 'truer' pronunciation...
                                        There seems to be extreme variation in accent/pronunciation across England (For a small country geographically), I can see how the language has been altered by region.
                                        I have been all over Australia, and apart from a few state dependant colloquialisms, we all sound the same, IMO.

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                                        • JamesMargJ
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                                          @Megatron1505:

                                          Aluminum/ Aluminium  😶

                                          Completely agree with this one too  ::)

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                                          • GilesG
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                                            @JamesMarg:

                                            I wonder why the Americans would have 'truer' pronunciation…

                                            Bryson's premise is that the American culture had a very strong ethic of the Town Hall and recording the meetings held there, in great written depth,  Thus the words were written down and hence did not mutate over time as much as in England where we didn't bother recording stuff like that.

                                            "OK face up to it - you're useless but generally pretty honest and straightforward . . . it's a rare combination of qualities that I have come to admire in you" - Geo 2011

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