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    mclaincausey
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    Joined: 12 Apr 2013

    I'll take that as a challenge; 2/3 of my rotation are full cotton construction, I'll let you know when they suddenly disintegrate 🙂

    Think it, be it.

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      Giles
      IHUK Crew
      Joined: 22 Sept 2009

      I can blow the cotton constructional stitching on the front pockets within 3 weeks.

      "OK face up to it - you're useless but generally pretty honest and straightforward . . . it's a rare combination of qualities that I have come to admire in you" - Geo 2011

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        mclaincausey
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        And yet jeans somehow lasted before the invention of polyester. A mystery…. What are y'all doing to your jeans anyway?!

        A lot of things that we value is obsolescent and impractical.  Such is the nature of vintage.

        Think it, be it.

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          Chris
          Raw and Unwashed
          Joined: 28 Jun 2010

          There's a difference between obsolete because it's more expensive to make, like shuttle loomed denim, and obsolete because it's not good, like cotton thread.  Companies like Strike Gold use cotton instead of poly because they like the look of popped stitches and disintegrated threads.  Personally, I don't feel like repairing my jeans every few weeks or watching the stitching unravel.

          Poly thread is stronger, both in abrasion resistance and snapping strength.  It is more colorfast, doesn't shed lint and it's less expensive.  By any objective measure, it's better.  The aesthetic argument for cotton thread doesn't sway me in the slightest.

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            Megatron1505
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            It is no coincidence that Samurai Jeans use cotton thread and are probably the most famous brand for crotch blow outs.

            Made in England, clothed in Japan, fed in America and drunk in Belgium !

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              mclaincausey
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              I do wonder if this is really an unpopular opinion here, but we shall see; I'll let you know when I start having problems with my all-cottons (this would be a first, I have a pair of beaten up all cottons that is semi-retired and pristine, has made it through farm and other hard labor, bicycling, etc).

              But to your point, a bunch of the premium Japanese brands (PBJ, Oni, Joe McCoy, SG, Mister Freedom) use or sometimes use all cotton thread, and there are a bunch of filthy bastards out there who never wash their jeans.  I'd think this would be worse for cotton than for polyester.  And a lot of the blowouts that I've seen were the denim, not the constructional stitching…

              There is a certain rich irony in organic cotton and natural indigo being stitched together with petroleum-derived fibers.  This doesn't bother me one bit, just noting an irony... 🙂

              Think it, be it.

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                Megatron1505
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                Joined: 10 Jul 2011

                Two things I am sure of through 6 years on SuFu.

                1. Jeans with cotton threads suffer infinitely more crotch blow outs.

                2. This is due to the use of cotton threads.

                Made in England, clothed in Japan, fed in America and drunk in Belgium !

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                  beautiful_FrEaK
                  Raw and Unwashed
                  Joined: 15 Jun 2010

                  Lock stitch is also better than chainstitch (from the durability point of view), yet most prefer the chainstitch for its authenticity (Lockstitch also leads to roping…less pronounced but still)

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                    mclaincausey
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                    That's exactly what was in my brain when I mentioned that vintage and practicality aren't always hand in hand.

                    Ok, back on topic. Pabst Blue Ribbon is, and has always been, swill.  Hipsters think they look like blue collar working stiffs when they drink it. To me they look like people who have no taste buds. There are better cheap beers if you can't afford a nicer beer as well.

                    Think it, be it.

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                      Seul
                      Joined: 24 Nov 2009

                      Hipsters have worse taste buds than us working class heroes ey…  🙂

                      last edited by 17 Jul 2013, 19:18 1 Reply Last reply Reply Quote 0
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                        Megatron1505
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                        We have the same thing going on in the UK with Carling, Carlsberg, Fosters, Stella etc… Aldi sell a German beer called Steinhauser, £4 for 6 bottles, and this is the greatest cheap beer available in the UK (top tip for UK residents)  😉

                        Made in England, clothed in Japan, fed in America and drunk in Belgium !

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                          Seul
                          Joined: 24 Nov 2009

                          Or just contact me and 'ave a cheap Belgian hollie ey!..

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                            mclaincausey
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                            We have a local cheap ass American style Pilsener called Grain Belt here. I love it. Then again, as far as cheap swill goes, I like High Life…  So I have an adaptable palate.

                            The worst local beer is this shit called Hamm's. this cocktail lounge carries it ironically and I had it after one of the finest Sazeracs I've ever enjoyed thinking a change of pace would be nice. It was baaaaaad.  Almost retroactively ruined the Sazerac.  Almost.

                            Think it, be it.

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                              tatmantall
                              Joined: 24 Dec 2012

                              My father used to use hamms beer in some concoction he used on our lawn when I was growing up. Must have worked because our deck and yard was featured in Better Hones and Gardens when I was in high school. Forget drinking that garbage tho!

                              "I know to you it may sound strange, but I wish it would rain…"- The Temptations

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                                mclaincausey
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                                ^That it works as a pesticide and fertilizer is no surprise!

                                Think it, be it.

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                                  riffblaster general
                                  Raw and Unwashed
                                  Joined: 23 Mar 2010

                                  i don't know if it's an unpopular opinion but i think grapefruit tastes like puke.

                                  PUT DOWN THAT STARBUCKS, PICK UP THAT GNARBUCKS!!

                                  last edited by 18 Jul 2013, 02:37 1 Reply Last reply Reply Quote 0
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                                    JamesMarg
                                    Joined: 26 May 2013

                                    Americans who say 'erbs' or 'urbs', instead of 'herbs.'
                                    Angers me to no end…

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                                      seanocono
                                      Joined: 17 Oct 2012

                                      ^I've never heard an American pronounce the "h" in "herb"; unless they are speaking the shortened version of the male name Herbert. That's the way it's pronounced in America. We could be here all day arguing over regional pronounciations.

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                                        Giles
                                        IHUK Crew
                                        Joined: 22 Sept 2009

                                        @JamesMarg:

                                        Americans who say 'erbs' or 'urbs', instead of 'herbs.'
                                        Angers me to no end…

                                        Read "Mother Tongue" by Bill Bryson.  One of his assertions in that book, is that American pronunciation of English is truer to the way English used to be spoken by the English than the way the English themselves now speak

                                        "OK face up to it - you're useless but generally pretty honest and straightforward . . . it's a rare combination of qualities that I have come to admire in you" - Geo 2011

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                                          Megatron1505
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                                          Joined: 10 Jul 2011

                                          Aluminum/ Aluminium  😶

                                          Made in England, clothed in Japan, fed in America and drunk in Belgium !

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