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    • nemesisnow1200N
      nemesisnow1200
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      @Max:

      I enjoy the articles and compare mesurements.

      im just fascinated by all the different brands,,,some good,,some so so

      Raw and unwashed ,,,,,,my fekkin arse!!!!!!

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        love those mags…gives you a better oversight over the interesting brands and more options to chosose from

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        • tatmantallT
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          Does samurai have a cut similar to the IH 634 that still has a 36"+ inseam post soak. Been looking at the s5000vx and looks like the 17oz denim would work but really like the look of their 21oz. Denim and not finding any conclusive info as to what a size 30 waist inseam ends up at after all shrinking is gone. Any help is appreciated fellas, I'd like to stay 19 oz plus but no less than 17

          "I know to you it may sound strange, but I wish it would rain…"- The Temptations

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            all pairs of Samurai have an inseam of around 36" after soak/wash, no matter what waist size. The 710 has the longest inseam of those (most of the time it ends at 37"). always keep in mind, if the pair has a higher rise and you keep your jeans always at the same spot, the rise will also affect the length.

            check here for further information and some measurements:
            http://supertalk.superfuture.com/index.php/topic/118683-b-fs-big-samurai-fit-guide/

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            • Max PowerM
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              MY 5000VX 21 oz has an iseam of about 36". This is also the cut that's most similar to 634s, the 710 comes with a longer inseam but is slimmer and has a higher rise than the 634.

              @elclintor:

              > I don't care what people say.. The Max Power way is the right way…

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              • tatmantallT
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                Thanks max and b_f, (I actually have used b_F's samursi guide for both pairs of sam's I have purchased now, so a big thank you for the effort!).I went with a s5000vx 17 oz. sized down 2 as I have read these stretch a good deal in the waist and this thigh measurement would also be just a bit bigger than what I wear in IH 634. Now the wait is on…...

                "I know to you it may sound strange, but I wish it would rain…"- The Temptations

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                • tatmantallT
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                  Ugh.. Just measured my 634 as I haven't in a while and my 30's meaure 31. Ordered a 28 and worried I might have mis sized now… Trying to contact Gordon to switch to a 29 before they ship out. Damn it!

                  ****Contacted BiG as soon as they opened and got the order swithched to a szie 29 15th anniversary s5000vx. Can't wait!!! And props to the crew and Gordon for putting up with my ridiculousness and changing the order last minute. Felt like a real jerk to have to do that but I am rather finicky when it comes to sizing.

                  "I know to you it may sound strange, but I wish it would rain…"- The Temptations

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                    that's definitely a better choice to go with the 29!

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                    • mclaincauseyM
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                      Almost went Samurai when I got my 634s. I'm obsessed with Japanese culture and those samurai on the patch are very compelling, aside from how great their jeans are otherwise.

                      Think it, be it.

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                      • tatmantallT
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                        Yeah I was really nervous of trying to size down 2 especially after I saw my IH's had stretched to 31 it would have been uncomfortably close and I think they would have ended up too low rise for my taste even if they had worked

                        "I know to you it may sound strange, but I wish it would rain…"- The Temptations

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                        • RocknRollR
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                          @tatmantall:

                          ****Contacted BiG as soon as they opened and got the order swithched to a szie 29 15th anniversary s5000vx. Can't wait!!! And props to the crew and Gordon for putting up with my ridiculousness and changing the order last minute.

                          This doesn't surprise me - Gordon is a champion. I have quizzed (pestered?) him about numerous things in the past, and he will bend over backwards to help.

                          His customer service is right up there with Giles'.

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                            @mclaincausey:

                            Almost went Samurai when I got my 634s. I'm obsessed with Japanese culture and those samurai on the patch are very compelling, aside from how great their jeans are otherwise.

                            I'm probably not the best to answer, but did purchase them due to the patch. Construction and materials top notch, few novel details. The main difference between them I've found is the Samurai's fade WAY fast. I don't feel like I'll be wearing them in 2-3 years time, like I am with IH.

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                            • Max PowerM
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                              ^well, the new IH fabrics (23 oz SE, 25 oz) fade as fast if not quicker IMO. And it depends on which Samurai fabric you look at. But compared to the standard 21 oz denim from IH, Samurais fade faster. But the bigger difference to me is that the denim has different character, more slubs and irregularities. Plus cuts, that are more retro than IH. Add the sanforization process on most IHs and you have what makes the difference to me.

                              @elclintor:

                              > I don't care what people say.. The Max Power way is the right way…

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                                @Max:

                                But the bigger difference to me is that the denim has different character, more slubs and irregularities. Plus cuts, that are more retro than IH.

                                Very good calls. Samurai's remind me of Sugarcane in terms of both slub/irregularities and retro cuts. For sure they have their time and place, but if I had my time again I wouldn't be wearing a pair in the office, I'd be wearing IH in the office and Sami's on the weekend. My next office denim is going to be IH-666S; unsanforized, but more regular :). Both have their place  🙂

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                                  @tatmantall:

                                  Yeah I was really nervous of trying to size down 2 especially after I saw my IH's had stretched to 31 it would have been uncomfortably close and I think they would have ended up too low rise for my taste even if they had worked

                                  especially sizing down on an unsanforized pair of jeans. but the waist will stretch back out to raw measurements and is able to stetch at least 1" beyond the raw measurements 🙂

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                                  • Max PowerM
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                                    ^^good choice IMO. The more regular and smooth looking IH denims are more suitable for the office (I'm wearing Samurais at the  moment, though :P)

                                    @elclintor:

                                    > I don't care what people say.. The Max Power way is the right way…

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                                    • tatmantallT
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                                      S5000vx waist 29 came this morningAfter first soak they were only a touch snug, waist still measured 30. but figure they had more shrinking left so popped em in for a hot wash on medium agitation to get the rest out and get em nice and snug in the waist. I always worry this will cause my creasing to not be as sharp though

                                      "I know to you it may sound strange, but I wish it would rain…"- The Temptations

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                                      • mclaincauseyM
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                                        Starch em?

                                        Think it, be it.

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                                        • tatmantallT
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                                          I may due that actually, I've never used starch but seems like it couldn't hurt initially although I know long term use is believed to be damaging

                                          "I know to you it may sound strange, but I wish it would rain…"- The Temptations

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                                          • Max PowerM
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                                            I wouldn't recommend starching - it may cause your jeans to rip earlier. Plus, the Samurai models I own stay stiffer than the IH denim (21oz that is), so you'll probably be fine without starching.

                                            @elclintor:

                                            > I don't care what people say.. The Max Power way is the right way…

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