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    • bagley920B
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      Or Nike is using it and has a patent on it…

      If I am not I, who will be? -Henry David Thoreau

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      • ChrisC
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        Doubt they have the patent, unless they bought it when they hired him.  Seems like it would be in their interest to put some money behind the system and license it as broadly as possible.  That way people could buy online (directly from Nike) far more easily.

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        • urbanwoodsmanU
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          Here you go Mega, some quick pics.

          My new pair vs. old style pair

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          • SeulS
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            Those are in excellent nick!..

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            • Megatron1505M
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              Thanks Shane, looking forward to pounding some pavement in those bad boys.

              Made in England, clothed in Japan, fed in America and drunk in Belgium !

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              • hecticH
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                Thanks for the link Chris

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                • Finn666F
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                  damn, those look pretty badass imo! now if only I would be able to track some down…
                  thanks for the pics shane!...

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                  • supersalamiS
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                    just realized there's this small info section on bakers about leathers and all, with real images….
                    http://www.bakershoe.com/attribute-details.cfm/brand/whites-boots/
                    this sure would've helped alot more than the computerized one buildaboot provides…

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                    • D97x7D
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                      If I order a pair of White's with the close sole trim does it still have the double line of stitching, or is close single, standard double?

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                      • ChrisC
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                        Close sole trim has only one line of welt stitching.  It's strictly an appearance thing, by the way.  The second line of welt stitching does not add any greater durability; in fact some bootmakers argue that it reduces the strength of the welt by adding holes and weakening the leather.

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                        • D97x7D
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                          Thanks Chris!

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                          • SpaceGnomeS
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                            @supersalami:

                            just realized there's this small info section on bakers about leathers and all, with real images….
                            http://www.bakershoe.com/attribute-details.cfm/brand/whites-boots/
                            this sure would've helped alot more than the computerized one buildaboot provides…

                            nice find.  They should make those links clickable so you can get a bigger visual though.

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                            • U
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                              Woo! Sizing is finalised so now i just need to choose a leather 🙂

                              Going with smooth for these ones and originally thought classic brown but am tempted by the smooth red dog.

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                              • bagley920B
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                                @supersalami:

                                just realized there's this small info section on bakers about leathers and all, with real images….
                                http://www.bakershoe.com/attribute-details.cfm/brand/whites-boots/
                                this sure would've helped alot more than the computerized one buildaboot provides…

                                That doesn't have all the options on there. Off hand, I know the desert sand roughout isn't listed

                                If I am not I, who will be? -Henry David Thoreau

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                                  Ermahgerd!

                                  Leather 1: Brown Chrome Excel by Horween
                                  Leather 2: Brown Chrome Excel by Horween
                                  Toe Vamp Leather: Brown Chrome Excel by Horween
                                  Toe Cap Leather: None
                                  Celastic Toe Box: Single
                                  Steel Toe: No
                                  Heel Counter Leather: Brown Chrome Excel by Horween
                                  Height: 8"
                                  Upper (Shaft) Leather : Brown Chrome Excel by Horween
                                  Leather Liner: Tan
                                  Sole Trim: Close Trim
                                  Top: Rolled
                                  Back Stay Leather: Brown Chrome Excel by Horween
                                  Pull Loop: Yes
                                  Eyelet Color: Brass
                                  Eyelet Configuration : Hook and Eyelet
                                  Top Garment: Eyelet
                                  Lace Design: Plain Toe
                                  Lace: Leather
                                  False Tongue: Brown Chrome Excel by Horween
                                  Sole: Vib 430
                                  Half Slip: No
                                  Heel Shape: Curve
                                  Heel Height: Standard
                                  Last: #38 Swing Last
                                  Midsole: Standard
                                  Midsole/Edge Color: Natural
                                  Size - Length: 13
                                  Size - Width: E

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                                    @Chris:

                                    Close sole trim has only one line of welt stitching.  It's strictly an appearance thing, by the way.  The second line of welt stitching does not add any greater durability; in fact some bootmakers argue that it reduces the strength of the welt by adding holes and weakening the leather.

                                    In no way am I disagreeing with you, but I would love to know where you got this info, where it was discussed. I am a satisfied traditionalist when it comes to White's, and have no interest in most of the fancy options or exotic leathers, block heels or swing lasts, that are all the rave these days, but… the double welt stitching on White's has always been a curiosity for me. I have owned enough pairs to be able expound on the advantages of two rows of stitching, but I just don't know of any.

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                                    • ChrisC
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                                      I used to participate in a few fora dedicated to cowboy boots and bootmaking; the discussion of multiple rows of welt stitching came up a few times and I remember the topic only in general terms, really.  I can't point you to specific posts or authoritative articles on the subject, but I'll dig around and see if I can find some sources for my previous statement.

                                      I don't have any boots with double stitched welts, so all my knowledge is theoretical.  If you have different experiences, I'd love to hear about it.  I could certainly be wrong about this, since I'm often wrong about a great many things.

                                      EDIT: The Custom Cowboy Boots & Shoes Forum had a discussion about double stitched welts a couple of years ago.  It devolved, (like a lot of discussions there did) but it does have some useful information.  The Crispin Colloquy is run by D.W. Frommer and also has lots of detailed info about the art and craft of shoe and boot making, but it's a massive hassle to search topics there.  If you dig around, you may find something useful.  Frommer (DWFII) is also an active member over at StyleForum, btw.

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                                      • astrogojiA
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                                        unharmed,

                                        I don't know enough about the swing last to make any learned comment on it…but pretty much configured this very same shoe right down to the size  😶

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                                        • urbanwoodsmanU
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                                          Does anyone know the difference between these?

                                          Baker's Oxford
                                          Offer Natural Chromexcel and you can do multi-tone leathers. More sole options. Also, looks like a double stitch down midsole. Looks like they might be made by Nick's boots.
                                          http://www.bakershoe.com/shop-by-brand.cfm/brand/bakers-boots/product/bakers-oxford/

                                          and

                                          Baker's Oxford by White's
                                          More leather options
                                          http://www.bakershoe.com/shop-by-brand.cfm/brand/whites-boots/product/bakers-oxford-by-whites-boots/

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                                            @astrogoji:

                                            unharmed,

                                            I don't know enough about the swing last to make any learned comment on it…but pretty much configured this very same shoe right down to the size  😶

                                            Good to meet another man of taste (and large feet 🙂 )

                                            To be honest, it was pictures of ronaldish's pair from this thread that settled me finally on leather choices. Precisely the colour/texture I wanted.

                                            I went with the swing last as it apparently makes for a slightly roomier toe box I have quite wide feet with a very high arch so that area of shoes is always a difficult fitting point for me.

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