White's Boots
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cool, Chris, I would like to know more about that.
Turns out the guy I was thinking about closed down his business and is now the Head Lastmaker at Nike. Found a video of the system he was working on, though.
Based on the date, I'm going to guess that nothing ever came of it, unfortunately.
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Doubt they have the patent, unless they bought it when they hired him. Seems like it would be in their interest to put some money behind the system and license it as broadly as possible. That way people could buy online (directly from Nike) far more easily.
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Here you go Mega, some quick pics.
My new pair vs. old style pair
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Thanks Shane, looking forward to pounding some pavement in those bad boys.
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just realized there's this small info section on bakers about leathers and all, with real images….
http://www.bakershoe.com/attribute-details.cfm/brand/whites-boots/
this sure would've helped alot more than the computerized one buildaboot provides… -
Close sole trim has only one line of welt stitching. It's strictly an appearance thing, by the way. The second line of welt stitching does not add any greater durability; in fact some bootmakers argue that it reduces the strength of the welt by adding holes and weakening the leather.
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just realized there's this small info section on bakers about leathers and all, with real images….
http://www.bakershoe.com/attribute-details.cfm/brand/whites-boots/
this sure would've helped alot more than the computerized one buildaboot provides…nice find. They should make those links clickable so you can get a bigger visual though.
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just realized there's this small info section on bakers about leathers and all, with real images….
http://www.bakershoe.com/attribute-details.cfm/brand/whites-boots/
this sure would've helped alot more than the computerized one buildaboot provides…That doesn't have all the options on there. Off hand, I know the desert sand roughout isn't listed
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Ermahgerd!
Leather 1: Brown Chrome Excel by Horween
Leather 2: Brown Chrome Excel by Horween
Toe Vamp Leather: Brown Chrome Excel by Horween
Toe Cap Leather: None
Celastic Toe Box: Single
Steel Toe: No
Heel Counter Leather: Brown Chrome Excel by Horween
Height: 8"
Upper (Shaft) Leather : Brown Chrome Excel by Horween
Leather Liner: Tan
Sole Trim: Close Trim
Top: Rolled
Back Stay Leather: Brown Chrome Excel by Horween
Pull Loop: Yes
Eyelet Color: Brass
Eyelet Configuration : Hook and Eyelet
Top Garment: Eyelet
Lace Design: Plain Toe
Lace: Leather
False Tongue: Brown Chrome Excel by Horween
Sole: Vib 430
Half Slip: No
Heel Shape: Curve
Heel Height: Standard
Last: #38 Swing Last
Midsole: Standard
Midsole/Edge Color: Natural
Size - Length: 13
Size - Width: E -
Close sole trim has only one line of welt stitching. It's strictly an appearance thing, by the way. The second line of welt stitching does not add any greater durability; in fact some bootmakers argue that it reduces the strength of the welt by adding holes and weakening the leather.
In no way am I disagreeing with you, but I would love to know where you got this info, where it was discussed. I am a satisfied traditionalist when it comes to White's, and have no interest in most of the fancy options or exotic leathers, block heels or swing lasts, that are all the rave these days, but… the double welt stitching on White's has always been a curiosity for me. I have owned enough pairs to be able expound on the advantages of two rows of stitching, but I just don't know of any.
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I used to participate in a few fora dedicated to cowboy boots and bootmaking; the discussion of multiple rows of welt stitching came up a few times and I remember the topic only in general terms, really. I can't point you to specific posts or authoritative articles on the subject, but I'll dig around and see if I can find some sources for my previous statement.
I don't have any boots with double stitched welts, so all my knowledge is theoretical. If you have different experiences, I'd love to hear about it. I could certainly be wrong about this, since I'm often wrong about a great many things.
EDIT: The Custom Cowboy Boots & Shoes Forum had a discussion about double stitched welts a couple of years ago. It devolved, (like a lot of discussions there did) but it does have some useful information. The Crispin Colloquy is run by D.W. Frommer and also has lots of detailed info about the art and craft of shoe and boot making, but it's a massive hassle to search topics there. If you dig around, you may find something useful. Frommer (DWFII) is also an active member over at StyleForum, btw.
