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have to love this place. thanks for responding dougie
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no problem, well actually f^ck you very much. nothing personal i do understand how these measurements can get folks all crazy like & coupled with the amount the goods cost a bit of anxiety is understandable.
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True, and nobody seems to measure exactly the same way, making comparisons across sites basically impossible. Add to that the lack of availability that means the 97% of us outside a couple of major cities can't try pairs on before buying, and you have a recipe for serious stress.
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G and Mdme B have put up some info on how they measure things, it is in here: http://www.ironheart.co.uk/forum/index.php?board=46.0
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Yep, and that's really helpful; pics and substantial explanations of exactly how the measuring is done are great. I appreciate the time they took to get the pictures and do the write ups for that. The problem is that Self Edge and Blue In Green each measure their own way, and that's just two stores here in the US. If you're ordering from The Denim Vault, DC4, another IH retailer or a Rakuten store, there's no telling how many other measuring systems there will be. Then there's the variations from pair to pair, conversions from inches to centimeters or vice versa, so on and so forth. Bottom line is that measurements are always going to have some guesswork involved.
Even if two people measure the same pair of jeans using the same method, there's still going to be slight differences, based on how tightly each person holds the tape, how tightly the jeans are pulled flat, etc. Like all the other veterans, I know the main measurements that make a good fit for me, and that eliminates most of the worry, but when I order a pair, I still have to cross my fingers and hope they'll be right when I put them on.
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I understand and it is a continuing problem. The reason that we decided to do it the way that Iron Heart in Japan does it (and I suspect that most other Japanese jeans companies do it too, as Haraki and Tom who were/are pattern designers were incredulous that there could be any other method) is that we can now, if we want to, take their measurements and publish before we actually get the products.
There is one proviso here, when the Japanese measure front and rear rise, they do not include the waist band, we will continue to include the waist band n our front and rear rise measurements.
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The blue/black shirt at the new front page, what shirt is that? And is it available somewhere?
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