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    • rocketR
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      there might be more inside, happy hunting…

      rocketrocksrox 🤙🏼🤙🏾

      It's all humbug, like everywhere
      R.I.P. Geo

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      • Megatron1505M
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        Actually found some good stuff, just doing my own little research. Some of the Faith No More stuff is quite pricey, really old stuff, picture discs, first pressings, promo 12" singles etc… Plus an Ella Fitzgerald sings Cole Porter album, and a Stan Tracey Quartet album, and a rare complete misprinted sleeve version on "Band On The Run" complete with posters etc..

        According to ebay, there could be a new pair of Whites in this for me  😉

        Made in England, clothed in Japan, fed in America and drunk in Belgium !

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        • rocketR
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          nice, good luck with the sales…

          rocketrocksrox 🤙🏼🤙🏾

          It's all humbug, like everywhere
          R.I.P. Geo

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          • R
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            Sup Fellas.

            What's up with the disparity between Self Edge  measurements, and the measurements on this site? I wanted to order a pair of jeans and I asked them to measure, and they obliged… but the measurements on both sites still don't match up...

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            • madmondayM
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              i think there are a few reasons why the measurements won't match up perfectly:

              1. small label with handcrafted goods tend to have small differences in sizes in the same batch of an item.
              2. they use different measuring techniques, check the way the vendor measures items with the way IHUK measures
              3. the measurements published are a average & so no pair is really going to match up to it.

              i would go to the respective website, & see how the item in question is measured.  i would then use the same method to measure my best fitting garment & compare to decide what i can/can not fit into.

              hope this information is helpful & hasn't thrown you off the path

              all the best,

              monday on a Sunday

              head high, middle finger higher

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              • R
                ribkin
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                I checked the measurement techniques, and I'm aware that no two jeans can be identical.

                But look at the sz 36 666od at Self Edge and compare it to the measurements on this site. Tell me if you don't think something's way off, even accounting for all those things you mentioned.

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                • DougNgD
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                  The waist measurements are pretty close

                  The thigh measurements are different because the two vendors use different angles to measure the thigh

                  The knee measurements are different because SE measures at 14" from the crotch and IHUK measures 13"

                  I know violence is not the answer, I got it wrong on purpose

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                  • R
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                    Thanks for clearing that up.

                    I assumed the measurements techniques were the same, didn't take the angle into account, nor distance from crotch.

                    Finally, my first pair of IH….

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                    • madmondayM
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                      have to love this place.  thanks for responding dougie

                      head high, middle finger higher

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                      • R
                        ribkin
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                        Thanks Monday,

                        sorry for snapping … high anxiety

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                        • madmondayM
                          madmonday
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                          no problem, well actually f^ck you very much.  nothing personal i do understand how these measurements can get folks all crazy like & coupled with the amount the goods cost a bit of anxiety is understandable.

                          head high, middle finger higher

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                          • ChrisC
                            Chris
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                            True, and nobody seems to measure exactly the same way, making comparisons across sites basically impossible.  Add to that the lack of availability that means the 97% of us outside a couple of major cities can't try pairs on before buying, and you have a recipe for serious stress.

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                            • O
                              Omega Man
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                              G and Mdme B have put up some info on how they measure things, it is in here:  http://www.ironheart.co.uk/forum/index.php?board=46.0

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                              • ChrisC
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                                Yep, and that's really helpful; pics and substantial explanations of exactly how the measuring is done are great.  I appreciate the time they took to get the pictures and do the write ups for that.  The problem is that Self Edge and Blue In Green each measure their own way, and that's just two stores here in the US.  If you're ordering from The Denim Vault, DC4, another IH retailer or a Rakuten store, there's no telling how many other measuring systems there will be.  Then there's the variations from pair to pair, conversions from inches to centimeters or vice versa, so on and so forth.  Bottom line is that measurements are always going to have some guesswork involved.

                                Even if two people measure the same pair of jeans using the same method, there's still going to be slight differences, based on how tightly each person holds the tape, how tightly the jeans are pulled flat, etc.  Like all the other veterans, I know the main measurements that make a good fit for me, and that eliminates most of the worry, but when I order a pair, I still have to cross my fingers and hope they'll be right when I put them on.

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                                • GilesG
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                                  I understand and it is a continuing problem.  The reason that we decided to do it the way that Iron Heart in Japan does it (and I suspect that most other Japanese jeans companies do it too, as Haraki and Tom who were/are pattern designers were incredulous that there could be any other method) is that we can now, if we want to, take their measurements and publish before we actually get the products.

                                  There is one proviso here, when the Japanese measure front and rear rise, they do not include the waist band, we will continue to include the waist band n our front and rear rise measurements.

                                  "OK face up to it - you're useless but generally pretty honest and straightforward . . . it's a rare combination of qualities that I have come to admire in you" - Geo 2011

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                                  • C
                                    Copenhagen
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                                    The blue/black shirt at the new front page, what shirt is that? And is it available somewhere?
                                    Best
                                    Michael

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                                    • GilesG
                                      Giles
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                                      It is an IHSH-20 from a couple of years ago.  Not available new, but not impossible to find on the second hand market….

                                      "OK face up to it - you're useless but generally pretty honest and straightforward . . . it's a rare combination of qualities that I have come to admire in you" - Geo 2011

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                                      • PETEROCK1P
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                                        G, I know this is a long shot, but is there anyway we can get a glossary of every single Iron Heart piece ever made in numerical order?

                                        GEO 2011           IHFFIH  Iron Heart Forever… Forever Iron Heart

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                                        • GilesG
                                          Giles
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                                          We are working on something like that at the moment…..

                                          "OK face up to it - you're useless but generally pretty honest and straightforward . . . it's a rare combination of qualities that I have come to admire in you" - Geo 2011

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                                          • zhivagoZ
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                                            Cool

                                            Zhivago

                                            MM: "we all got to start somewhere"

                                            G: "Never once did he bitch, moan or complain.  He just motivated the team and got on with it"

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