Samurai Jeans

[Megatron1505]

My S5000VX 21oz

[georgeel]

My new S0110XJ

Denim: 17oz. Insanely slubby, soft and yelding, unusual look, nice shade of indigo. Very Beautiful. Vote: 9
Details: riveted at crotch, beautiful arcs, half lined pockets. the second rivet of the coin pocket is hidden. Solid seams. I've seen better buttons. Vote: 8.5
Cut: I'm used to better cuts, sorry. Vote 6

[Max Power]

I like the cut. What bothers you?

[georgeel]

Waist is to tight and thigh too wide.
But maybe I was a bit to harsh with them. This is their second day of life, after all…

[thewickett]

a '6' cut for you may be a 10 for somebody else really hard to rate something like that

[bagley920]

I have a smaller waist compared to my thighs so that cut would be good for me

[georgeel]

Look at the measurements (from BiG):

The ratio between waist and thigh is greater than that of any model of Iron Heart.
And not only of Iron Heart…
But it's also true that Jin denim stretches a lot and faster!

And, after all, the more I wear them, the more I like! So I gonna change may vote: 8!

[kit99bar]

guess the cut is intended to be tight on your crotch/ass and loose in the legs?

[FOXY]

Have a SAM S0110XJ Lot.10 too - Initially, I had the same problems with the cut. I guess I had the wrong expectations - now it is one of my favorite relaxed fits.

[DrPat]

The 634s seems to have a similar ratio as to the BiG jean:

BiG: 30/12.5 = 2.4
634s: 29.6/11.7 = 2.5

Differences may be due to measurement techniques.

BiG: Measure straight from the crotch to the outside of the leg parallel to the waistband.

IH: Lay the jeans flat ensuring that any the rear rise material is to the left of the centre seam and measure the TOTAL width (not just to the centre seam) ensuring that the measuring tape is at right angles to the weft (white) yarns.

[kit99bar]

Using ratios and percentages doesn't work for jean measurements at all because small measurement changes are very significant for jeans.  Especially in the legs (not as much in the thighs etc).

For example, while a 12.5 and 11.7 thigh is only 6.4% difference:

• 12.5 thigh = hugely baggy on me

• 11.7 thigh = slim fitted.

[georgeel]

@DrPat:

The 634s seems to have a similar ratio as to the BiG jean:

BiG: 30/12.5 = 2.4
634s: 29.6/11.7 = 2.5

Correct. But 634S are sanforized, Samurai Jin are not, and they shrink after washed. But they don't shrink proportionally, you have to subtract 1 or more inches from waist and only 0.50" from thigh. Doing so, ratio will grow.

[Finn666]

had to fix the little rip on my samurais on the weekend.

before

after

[Megatron1505]

Good job Rafa, strong repair.

[beautiful_FrEaK]

yeah man…Rafa...you're getting really good with the needle work

[kit99bar]

The Black Shadows with orange stitching and hidden arcs are at BiG now.
The Black Shadows with all black details and black arcs will be at BiG tomorrow.

[Finn666]

thanks guys…unfortunately i had no blue-ish kinda thread for the repair (had to use the colours my neighbour had in his thread-box, since my repair-kit is back home in germany) so i only can imagine that it would look way better with an other kinda thread-color...more denim matching!

but whatever

[kit99bar]

Doing a bit of digging and it seems the black 17oz zero denim stretches a ton. 
BF or anyone else with this denim, do you think the thigh can stretch back to near pre soak measurements if one keeps the shrinking to a single hot soak?  I'm between a 31 and 32 on the black shadows.

[beautiful_FrEaK]

mhh…tough question. is it VX denim so it surely stretches a ton..thighs would also stretch but I'm a little hesitant to encourage you to expect a full "back stretch"

[demonito]

5 month old 24 oz