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Watches - another OCD problem

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    mclaincausey
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    There’s a Swatch FF coming out too that looks cool

    Think it, be it.

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      northsouthdenimguy
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      @Mizmazzle I don’t know, but I can’t have one without the other. Thank you!

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        northsouthdenimguy
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          Giles
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          @mclaincausey has taught me to be very annoyed about war and peace adorning the face of watches.....😂😂

          "OK face up to it - you're useless but generally pretty honest and straightforward . . . it's a rare combination of qualities that I have come to admire in you" - Geo 2011

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            Mizmazzle
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            A boy can dream…I prefer the black dial, personally…course polar ain’t too shabby.

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            In the easy chair with my boots on, melted whiskey in my hand. Could'na been asleep for more than three hours...time to go to work again...

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              Graeme
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              @Giles said in Watches - another OCD problem:

              @mclaincausey has taught me to be very annoyed about war and peace adorning the face of watches.....😂😂

              And that is why @mclaincausey is eyeing up a Parmigiani Fleurieur with a minimalist dial. 😁

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                mclaincausey
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                One of the things about the PF is that the minimalism extends to the GMT mechanism. Even to the extent that it disappears when not needed. Balancing economy of information and functionality is something I value. That means minimal but also instantly understandable.

                Think it, be it.

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                  JDelage
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                  Except for the lack of a 24hr scale or day/night indicator that is... (I admit the PF is lovely.)

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                    Giles
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                    @mclaincausey said in Watches - another OCD problem:

                    the minimalism extends to the GMT mechanism. Even to the extent that it disappears when not needed. Balancing economy of information .

                    So does this (though economy is not a word that readily springs to mind)....

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                    "OK face up to it - you're useless but generally pretty honest and straightforward . . . it's a rare combination of qualities that I have come to admire in you" - Geo 2011

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                      mclaincausey
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                      @JDelage if you’re not on a multi day spelunking expedition or something those might not strictly be necessary, thus their inclusion could be superfluous depending upon use case

                      Think it, be it.

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                        Giles
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                        What does spelunking mean, getting as high as a kite? If I'm so out of it that I do not have a vague notion as to whether it is day or night, then knowing the time is pretty fucking irrelevant 🙂

                        "OK face up to it - you're useless but generally pretty honest and straightforward . . . it's a rare combination of qualities that I have come to admire in you" - Geo 2011

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                          mclaincausey
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                          Hehe there’s that I suppose G.

                          I mentioned spelunking specifically because that was the Explorer II pitch: when you’re spelunking, or in a polar region, or whatever where you can’t tell if it’s day or night, you need this functionality.

                          That is what we call in product management an “edge case” that I don’t personally need to account for in a GMT.

                          Think it, be it.

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                            yannis
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                            Spelunking is a Greek origin word and has something to do with caves. I assume cave exploring or something of this short.

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                              TinMan
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                              Love me some radiation

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                              Now, I have an IRONHEART!!

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                                Graeme
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                                @kkibbey23 I took a look at a Bathyscaphe in titanium in November, and that was a nice piece. I'm on team large wrists, so I can get away with bigger watches.

                                I'm with @mclaincausey that I generally know roughly what the relative time will be compared to the local. For example, it's currently 8:30 pm on the East Coast of Australia, I know that the UK is earlier, so I'd figure out that the time on my 12-hour GMT would correspond to 9:30 am, not 9:30 pm.

                                But, of course, we need our watches to be over specified for diving in an Antarctic cave, even though they'll never see anything more extreme than an office desk...

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                                  mclaincausey
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                                  I don’t mind an over speced GMT function as much as a He escape valve. Talk about edge case. An edge case on the case edge 😂

                                  Think it, be it.

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                                    JDelage
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                                    @mclaincausey said in Watches - another OCD problem:

                                    @JDelage if you’re not on a multi day spelunking expedition or something those might not strictly be necessary, thus their inclusion could be superfluous depending upon use case

                                    Yes, in the most obvious case of a trip from Europe to the US, or reverse, it's fine. (Then again, in such a case one doesn't really "need" GMT at all generally.) In the case of a multi continent, multi leg trip involving much jet lag and sleep deprivation it can get more difficult.

                                    Purely from a watch appreciation standpoint, it would be fun to see a watch go to the extremes of the 2 time zone functions, with some indication of day/night for home time (I prefer a 24hr scale personally) and a quick adjustment of the current time down to the 1/2hr (since some time zones require that). I don't know that any exist.

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                                      mclaincausey
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                                      I think 24 hour clocks are much better in general (see above about appreciating economy, understandability, etc) and that sounds like a great watch to me!

                                      Think it, be it.

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                                        ddtrash
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                                        @JDelage I understand your preference for a full 24hr scale on a GMT watch. One of the nicest executions of this in my opinion is the LUC GMT One.

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                                        There is no 'I' in team …............ however there are five in 'individual brilliance'.

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                                          ddtrash
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                                          @mclaincausey I agree that most complications on mechanical watches have become "edge case". I can not think of many complications in a watch that I use on a regular basis other than date function and the dive watch rotating bezel for rough timing duties (typically for me when cooking).

                                          The smartphone has pretty much killed off the relevance of all mechanical watch complications. One exception I can think of is a favourite of @Graeme the Patek 5212A weekly calendar calatrava. I might be missing how to configure it, but my smart phone does not seem to have the weekly calendar function?

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                                          There is no 'I' in team …............ however there are five in 'individual brilliance'.

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