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    • QinhanQ
      Qinhan
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      Are there any legal issues with utilising the name of "the man in black" on the IHUK website as well as his likeness in the latest newsletter?

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      • GilesG
        Giles
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        Actually, I'm pretty sure there are, but I thought "feck it, what's the worse that can happen?"

        Sent from my iPad using Tapatalk HD

        "OK face up to it - you're useless but generally pretty honest and straightforward . . . it's a rare combination of qualities that I have come to admire in you" - Geo 2011

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        • bagley920B
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          You're not selling his name IMO, just a look

          Worst that could happen is they make you take it down

          If I am not I, who will be? -Henry David Thoreau

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          • M
            MikeC
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            @Giles:

            Actually, I'm pretty sure there are, but I thought "feck it, what's the worse that can happen?"

            Sent from my iPad using Tapatalk HD

            Some poor TN family members of Cash, could sue the shit out of you for copyright infringement.  The USA does not fuck around with this type of shit.

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            • Z
              zwer
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              Meh. We used an Arcade Fire song for a promo video and it went viral. President of their record company called, told us how much they liked the video, but that we had to take it down. No harm. No foul. No lawyers.

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              • ChrisC
                Chris
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                @MikeC:

                Some poor TN family members of Cash, could sue the shit out of you for copyright infringement.  The USA does not fuck around with this type of shit.

                Unlikely; not just any random relative can sue.  It has to be the owner of Cash's name and image (the owner of the rights to the picture used can sue for that as well).  As a practical matter, they would also have to weigh the cost in time and money of the litigation against the perceived harm and potential recovery.  It's very likely that Giles (like most people committing this type of offense) simply isn't with the trouble of suing.  The usual scenario is exactly what zwer said- a polite request to stop.  Lawsuits only happen when people are unreasonable.

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                  MikeC
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                  Thanks Chris, Esq. (not making fun, just busting balls a little)

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                  • mclaincauseyM
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                    I wouldn't worry. I guarantee the term "Man in Black" or "Folsom Special" could be used if someone gets their panties in a wad. Or "Mr. Cash". No evidence of trademarks on Johnny's name or man in Black according to a Google search

                    Think it, be it.

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                    • GilesG
                      Giles
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                      I'm sleeping easy, especially as it provoked comment…..

                      "OK face up to it - you're useless but generally pretty honest and straightforward . . . it's a rare combination of qualities that I have come to admire in you" - Geo 2011

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                      • Megatron1505M
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                        At least you're sleeping, my sleep requirement has deserted me at precisely the wrong time.

                        Made in England, clothed in Japan, fed in America and drunk in Belgium !

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                        • ChrisC
                          Chris
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                          @mclaincausey:

                          No evidence of trademarks on Johnny's name or man in Black according to a Google search

                          Not yet, anyway.  The estate is appears to be represented by the same IP firm that has worked for the Elvis Presley estate, which is notoriously protective of Presley's personality rights.

                          Still think Giles is safe, though.

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                          • SeulS
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                            @MikeC:

                            Thanks Chris, Esq.

                            😉

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                            • natehateN
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                              ethical question here
                              if something you bought off ebay showed up at your house MONTHS later, after you've already gotten a full refund and rebought the item from a different seller.
                              do you keep it or do you return to sender?

                              ps. this was supposed to be a birthday present for my nephew

                              don't you know there ain't no devil? only god when he's drunk!

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                              • SeulS
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                                Return or contact seller and pay him… Depends though, if he was too lazy to ship it (check date on stamp)...

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                                • ArabitA
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                                  DTRT (Do the right thing)
                                  and depends on how expensive the item is

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                                  • rocketR
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                                    if there is any evidence that the delay was caused by the transportation company, contact the seller. If the seller is just a lazy idiot, keep it….

                                    I had something similar some time ago, sold an item to a Russian customer that got "lost" and after a month of waiting I gave the buyer a full refund (around $300). Several months later I got a PayPal payment from this dude out of nowhere, with just a small line "its here, thanks my friend" and the full amout...

                                    rocketrocksrox 🤙🏼🤙🏾

                                    It's all humbug, like everywhere
                                    R.I.P. Geo

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                                    • natehateN
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                                      im gonna send it back
                                      its bounced all over
                                      someone read the postal code and it got sent all over

                                      don't you know there ain't no devil? only god when he's drunk!

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                                      • SeulS
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                                        @rocket:

                                        with just a small line "its here, thanks my friend" and the full amout…

                                        This is fucking AWESOME!..

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                                        • urbanwoodsmanU
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                                          @natehate:

                                          ethical question here
                                          if something you bought off ebay showed up at your house MONTHS later, after you've already gotten a full refund and rebought the item from a different seller.
                                          do you keep it or do you return to sender?

                                          Similar thing just happened to me.

                                          I ordered leather samples from Whites 3 months ago. A month went by and I hadn't received them yet so I contacted Whites. They said they had sent the package a month ago using USPS. They ended up sending another set using UPS and I got them a week later. Now, 3 months later the USPS package shows up looking like it's been to hell and back. Just contacted Whites and they said to keep them.

                                          Bonus: There were 5-6 different leathers in the second set.

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                                          • natehateN
                                            natehate
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                                            nice
                                            i sent him a message and told him i was sending it back
                                            see what happens

                                            don't you know there ain't no devil? only god when he's drunk!

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