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    • WhiskeySandwichW
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      @long_john86 thanks for sharing! and i agree. its confusing as hell, even for us americans. it seems these days EVERYONE expects 20% as a standard upcharge for anything they touch. Automatic tipping is usually only included in restaurant bills for larger parties (about 8 or above). When I was younger, I recall 15% being a standard good service tip, and was shocked to hear at some point i was shorting people by 5%. Food delivery also expects a tip, but recently also added a delivery charge. So recently I paid a 5$ delivery fee, and a 10% tip for food that was after-the-fact delivered 40 minutes late and cold. I generally would give someone a piece of my mind for that, but these days it doesn't seem wise to do that to someone who knows where your family lives. Instead I've chosen to not participate in these services any longer. I would prefer to conduct business AT the business and remove unnecessary fees and variables from the equation.

      "The greatest obstacle to living is expectancy, which hangs upon tomorrow and loses today...The whole future lies in uncertainty: Live immediately."
      -Seneca

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      • WhiskeySandwichW
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        @goosehd absolutely agree with this

        "The greatest obstacle to living is expectancy, which hangs upon tomorrow and loses today...The whole future lies in uncertainty: Live immediately."
        -Seneca

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        • TobiT
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          We have the opposite in DK, where tipping in Restaurants was at least until recently not common (at all). Given generally high prices and wages the effect is often that it is VERY visible that your serving staff does not depend (or expect) a tip. Always positively impressed in the US when you get really friendly and helpful service 🙂

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          • GilesG
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            As a non-American, I fucking hate the level of stress that the Byzantine tipping system/culture/expectations gives me when in the US. I'm used to deciding whether I tip or not, and 10% is plenty. The whole US travel experience is stressful and annoying I don't need that shit. I have determined that I will only ever go back to see specific friends or to go to a specific function. The US is now completely off my radar for a relaxing holiday.

            "OK face up to it - you're useless but generally pretty honest and straightforward . . . it's a rare combination of qualities that I have come to admire in you" - Geo 2011

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            • MattM
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              @Giles said in Random Rants:

              The whole US travel experience is stressful and annoying

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              • GilesG
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                Good edit......

                "OK face up to it - you're useless but generally pretty honest and straightforward . . . it's a rare combination of qualities that I have come to admire in you" - Geo 2011

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                • TobiT
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                  I know this is the rant section 🙂
                  In my upcoming US trip, I will try to ignore stress-free empty roads, friendly service, constant friendly personal contacts, and amazing nature and scenery.
                  Expect report back from crazy encounters with tip-insistent, stressful armed rednecks at the September party... (oh wait.. some of them will be there....)

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                  • Tago MagoT
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                    @Tobi said in Random Rants:

                    stress-free empty roads, friendly service, constant friendly personal contacts, and amazing nature and scenery.

                    So you're travelling to Canada?

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                    • goosehdG
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                      @Tobi ...no need to worry, only the most insane batshit crazy ones will be at the party... 🙂

                      "I don't give a shit what anyone else is doing, we will do what is best for us and our customers" - Giles P. :)

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                      • goosehdG
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                        I don't even know how to classify myself anymore. Former US, Current Canadian, potential Jamaican or other small Caribbean Island that just doesn't give a fuck...

                        "I don't give a shit what anyone else is doing, we will do what is best for us and our customers" - Giles P. :)

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                        • TobiT
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                          @Tago-Mago HA, seen it all.. even those parts of the US where most Americans don't travel (coastal Mississippi anyone?)... For me: the more remote and small-town the better. Real rude and arrogant I have only encountered in NYC and LA 🙂

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                          • WhiskeySandwichW
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                            @Tobi depends where you go....we armed rednecks tend to be pretty easy-going out in the boonies if left alone or in good company 😉

                            "The greatest obstacle to living is expectancy, which hangs upon tomorrow and loses today...The whole future lies in uncertainty: Live immediately."
                            -Seneca

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                            • TobiT
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                              @WhiskeySandwich exactly my point...

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                              • long_john86L
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                                @Giles Totally. The only two experiences that beat the US tipping confusion/stress for me was haggling culture in Marrakesh or trying to pay for a taxi in Tehran. Both bloody horrible experiences and I will never return to either place as a result 🙂

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                                • T4920T
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                                  Automatic service charges of 10/15/20% seem to becoming increasingly prominent in the UK in recent years...

                                  I've always left at least a 10% tip on bills (barring awful service) as it's something I always saw my parents do when I was growing up. The moment it's position as near-mandatory, though, is the moment my defiant tendencies kick in...

                                  I was at a nice steak house in London recent with a friend (who I respect and care for very much) who is admittedly a little clueless socially, and I often find myself dying a little inside at his civil faux-pas' ...

                                  As we were in a bit of a rush, I politely asked the waiter to skip the niceties, and arrange for the food to be bought out as quickly as possible.

                                  After 90 minutes, numerous delays and the wrong dishes being bought out, I've never been more grateful for my friend bellowing 'NOPE, YOU CAN TAKE THAT RIGHT OFF!' when he saw an automatically added 25% service charge 😆

                                  “𝑁𝑒𝑣𝑒𝑟 𝑙𝑒𝑡 𝑡ℎ𝑒 𝑓𝑢𝑡𝑢𝑟𝑒 𝑑𝑖𝑠𝑡𝑢𝑟𝑏 𝑦𝑜𝑢. 𝑌𝑜𝑢 𝑤𝑖𝑙𝑙 𝑚𝑒𝑒𝑡 𝑖𝑡, 𝑖𝑓 𝑦𝑜𝑢 ℎ𝑎𝑣𝑒 𝑡𝑜, 𝑤𝑖𝑡ℎ 𝑡ℎ𝑒 𝑠𝑎𝑚𝑒 𝑤𝑒𝑎𝑝𝑜𝑛𝑠 𝑜𝑓 𝑟𝑒𝑎𝑠𝑜𝑛 𝑤ℎ𝑖𝑐ℎ 𝑡𝑜𝑑𝑎𝑦 𝑎𝑟𝑚 𝑦𝑜𝑢 𝑎𝑔𝑎𝑖𝑛𝑠𝑡 𝑡ℎ𝑒 𝑝𝑟𝑒𝑠𝑒𝑛𝑡.”

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                                  • MattM
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                                    I will only withhold a tip for egregious bad service, which I hardly ever see by my definition. My standard is 20% unless someone’s asking for a tip when none is warranted (I’m looking at you take out cashier). The most galling is when you buy a beer at a sporting event or concert. I’m not giving a tip on a $20 lite beer.

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                                    • Tago MagoT
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                                      @Matt said in Random Rants:

                                      lite beer

                                      initial mistake right there

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                                      • GilesG
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                                        QFT

                                        "OK face up to it - you're useless but generally pretty honest and straightforward . . . it's a rare combination of qualities that I have come to admire in you" - Geo 2011

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                                        • MizmazzleM
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                                          @WhiskeySandwich sounds to me like a genuine concern on his part about taking your money and not being able to share it out due to how many different people were on the job over various days.

                                          Meaning, thanks for the gesture, but tracking down all the workers and dividing up the cash is going to be more trouble than he’d like to take on.

                                          By that logic, kudos to him for not just taking it and pocketing it himself.

                                          In the easy chair with my boots on, melted whiskey in my hand. Could'na been asleep for more than three hours...time to go to work again...

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                                          • WhiskeySandwichW
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                                            @Mizmazzle That was actually my first consideration on the intent of his meaning. He was a very professional and respectful guy and I didn't instinctively go to "you snot". I should have mentioned in my initial rant, cuz thats what I said to my wife at the time. thats straight shootin, Miz, thanks for pointing that out

                                            "The greatest obstacle to living is expectancy, which hangs upon tomorrow and loses today...The whole future lies in uncertainty: Live immediately."
                                            -Seneca

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