The color on this thing is amazing, it has such wonderful shimmering blue colors poking through everywhere that just can't be captured in a photo. I have no idea how this could have been deemed "not Iron enough" as this thing is practically armor.
Agreed on both counts. If this was initially considered "not iron enough", I'd probably be too terrified to wear whatever is iron.
Got one! Have to say that was a much smoother ordering experience than the ihsh-277 too, last shirt I was rushing to buy on release 
Thanks for the reply, that's good to know. To be honest I've not owned much in the way of shirts this heavy before - I think there's more chance it ends up being too iron for me if anything, rather than not enough…
Looking forward to finding out soon anyway.
Won't be restocked. We have run out of the denim. We are sampling a new version in 19oz LHT at the moment, we did try 18oz vintage but decided it was not man enough. We have left the status of this shirt as "continuous production", so we can harvest "email me when back in stock" requests.
I have yet to see the new sample, so it will be at least 3 months before we see the new version in production I am afraid.
Super excited for the release of the new version of this shirt. Apologies if this is cheeky, but I came across this old post from @Giles saying the 18oz vintage wasn't 'man enough' for this shirt :o
Did anything change about this denim to make it more suitable, or was it just a case of any potential alternative denims turning out to be even less suitable?
I'm totally planning to buy this either way, just curious about the thinking/process that goes into the design.
Phew it took 25 minutes and I saw a lot of bare legs, but I eventually managed to order one of these 
I have factored in stretch to an extent. I was thinking 33.5-34" to be ideal post stretch for me. But I admit that I am quite new to this stuff. It's possible that the 32.2" would work out fine after quite a bit of initial discomfort. The pairs I have now all started out close to 33".
Sounds like you're exactly the same size as me. I'd also ideally end up with a 33.5" - 34" waist after stretch. The leg (thigh/knee/hem) look closer to ideal for me on a 32, but bigger wouldn't be the end of the world. I just ordered a 33 and asked for a small pair, on the basis that if it's slightly large I just end up with a more relaxed fit, instead of too small where I'd end up with uncomfortable jeans that I'd probably wear less often. Maybe the 32 might have ended up a better fit, but 33 is safer.
One other thing it's worth noting if you haven't already though is that for me (and I guess others) the higher rise on these means I could probably get away with a slightly smaller waist than on other lower rise jeans, since I go in quite a bit at the waist. May or may not make a difference depending on which jeans you're comparing to and how you're shaped.
Guess I've been pretty much following the Giles model for most of the last ~10 years: buy a pair and wear them almost exclusively for 6 - 24 months, then buy another pair. Not that I'm totally rigid about it though, I'll throw in a black pair or an old worn in pair a day or two every couple of weeks just for variety, and in a (probably futile) attempt to convince normal people that I'm not some weird jeans obsessive. But yeah all this tempting denim is putting that approach under serious strain…
[emoji3516] Wow those look incredible, both fit and fades. I'm starting to become convinced that I need a pair in this XHSib denim. Pics like this are great sales material for IH!
Problem is I've only had my first pair of IH for about 3 months, and I've already decided I need a regular XHS pair, a SBG pair and a 21oz OD pair as well. Given I usually wear jeans for at least a year or two before getting a new pair, some real patience is going to be required.
So who exactly decides what is imported into Norway and what isn't?..
Oh and I've never bought Gipsy Hill before because the ratings of the available beers were too low… With so many beers available here, with many new ones added on a daily base, you have to draw the line somewhere... For me, that is that I will not buy a beer scoring lower than 4.0 on Untappd. My mate's decided to do 4.2 even.
Aaah beer snobs... You gotta love hating them...
Ha, that seems fair enough, not even sure I'd call it snobbery to be honest. If you mostly buy your beers online and you don't mind too much how much you pay*, you have to find some way of choosing between the thousands on offer. Untappd reviews is probably more sensible than just basing it on which can artwork you like the look of.
*and you don't live in Norway!
Everything over 4.7% is exclusively sold via a state owned monopoly.
Interesting. Does it have any noticeable effect on the beers produced by local breweries? Do you get a proliferation of 4.6% beers so they can be sold direct to consumers, or anything like that?
Cool to see Gipsy Hill on here - I live a 5 minute walk from their brewery. Didn't realise they'd made it far outside South London!
I'm only in N1, so it wasn't a huge journey
My local cornershop has about 5 of their beers at the moment
Aha I thought you were in Gosport from your profile. North London is indeed a bit less impressive, especially now it has northern Norway to compete with [emoji28]
Outstanding, thanks @neph93 that's really cool to see! When I visit friends in northern England nobody has heard of them, but northern Norway, "yeah I've tried 3 so far." Perhaps it's a sign of the level of beer geekiness on here more than anything else… I strongly approve.
@spitfiredealer and others, the new production of these was submitted today. They will be renamed the IH-555S-SBG and will be one washed.
This is super exciting to me! Love my 555-01 and need some new black jeans, so feeling like a pair of these are the obvious choice.
Maybe this is just me, but it's cool that they'll be one washed, too. Feels like sanforized but unwashed is kind of worst of both worlds - still have some guesswork with sizing, but without the "interestingness" of unsanforized denim.
Hate to be that guy, but any update on when these might be in stock?
Cool to see Gipsy Hill on here - I live a 5 minute walk from their brewery. Didn't realise they'd made it far outside South London!
For a long time after they started up they had this philosophy where they only produced "drinkable" beers (ie nothing over 5% or so, and nothing too exotic). Glad they dropped that policy eventually, as some of their IPAs/DIPAs and fruited sours recently have been really nice. They also seen super friendly whenever I've visited the tap room.
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Super excited for this, my first UHF. I was somewhere between M and L (again) so went for L on the basis that I don't want to be terrified every time I wash it in case it shrinks. Fingers crossed it works out.
It will also mean my IH collection will have gone from zero to five pieces in the space of about 5 weeks - I should probably slow down now…
Just wanted to say this thread is awesome. No way in a million years I'd be brave enough to take on anything like this, but following along here is fun anyway.
Also making me want to take more holidays in the US…
Ah OK thanks @Graham, good to know! Now I just have to try and come up with a justification for adding another jacket to my collection…
@PV/ATX:
I think I could definitely get down with an XL in one of these… maybe against my better judgement seeing that I already have an overdyed CPO. But damn it looks good.
@Giles out of curiosity, any refresh on the sold-out sizes expected anytime soon, as the weather's getting cooler?
I asked Graham via email (amazing service from Graham and Chesson by the way!) about restock plans and it doesn't sound promising, sadly:
"This was only just restocked and the denim is notoriously hard to come by so we have no plans to make any more at the moment. This last run has taken over a year to arrive I am afraid."
Hmmm… very hard to make a guess based on that info other that to say you are between an M and an L.
I suspect both would work but you may find the L a little roomy. Sam is mostly an L because of length issues, he is pretty tall. I’m sort of tempted to say try an L if you want to layer. However, given that your shirts are relaxed in that 20-21” space I’d err towards M.
Seeing as you are in the UK I’d strongly consider giving the guys in Gosport a ring and having a chat and go with their recomendation. Worst case you have to exchange it and what with overnight delivery you’ll only loose a day or two.
Cheers for the advice, @neph93, really helpful. One other key point I've just spotted though is that L is currently out of stock, so if M doesn't work I guess I'm stuck waiting for a restock
Based on that I think I'll order an M and see if it works. If not, it'll go back and I'll have to find some patience from somewhere.
Sadly the M didn't quite work out for me in the end - was on the snug side of a good fit with only a t-shirt underneath, but didn't really work at all with anything heavier.
I ended up picking up a IH-526J-142IB in L from Rivet & Hide. Had originally ignored this because I wanted something blacker so went to R&H to browse, but ended up really liking it when I saw it in person.
Hmmm… very hard to make a guess based on that info other that to say you are between an M and an L.
I suspect both would work but you may find the L a little roomy. Sam is mostly an L because of length issues, he is pretty tall. I’m sort of tempted to say try an L if you want to layer. However, given that your shirts are relaxed in that 20-21” space I’d err towards M.
Seeing as you are in the UK I’d strongly consider giving the guys in Gosport a ring and having a chat and go with their recomendation. Worst case you have to exchange it and what with overnight delivery you’ll only loose a day or two.
Cheers for the advice, @neph93, really helpful. One other key point I've just spotted though is that L is currently out of stock, so if M doesn't work I guess I'm stuck waiting for a restock 
Based on that I think I'll order an M and see if it works. If not, it'll go back and I'll have to find some patience from somewhere.
