21oz Shinayaka Selvedge Denim
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@dinobarnesberlin @Giles @AdamJ @grassfedyogi thank you all…
If they were regular 21oz today would have been a day with moderate discomfort, but I would also have expected them to "give" and stretch quite a bit. As it is they are not uncomforable in the least, but I can't grab much more at the back of the thigh now than I could this morning. My hypothesis is that the 2% polyurethane has a bit more fabric memory than cotton and resists the more permanent stretch than cotton has. That may well mean that the knee-bagging that @xtcclassic mentioned may not occur. That being said I'd imagine that some permanent changes will occur with time, it is after all still 98% cotton. I suspect they will just take longer and be less radical.
They look really great Reuben. You're def not "trying to hard"
No harder than usual at any rate
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They look fantastic @Neph93 !!
FWIW I have had plenty of stretch jeans fade - my “throw away” jeans I used to regularly wear to the gym when leading classes would definitely get fade patterns - especially if you wear them to the extent of their stretch abilities
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Rueben! Dope write up! I’m already sold man!! Can’t wait for these
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Great write @neph93 this denim is going to be perfect for me
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Agreed, that’s a great fit @neph93. I’m 40-something and I’d rock that cut if I could.
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Kinda disappointed you look nothing like the skinny legged bird with an exploding muffin top
Great write up and first impressions on this denim Reuben. The particular way you described how freely and comfortable it is to move in them surprised me. Almost too good to be true for something of that weight. Can’t wait to see how they evolve and additional thoughts as you put in more wear time. -
Kinda disappointed you look nothing like the skinny legged bird with an exploding muffin top
Great write up and first impressions on this denim Reuben. The particular way you described how freely and comfortable it is to move in them surprised me. Almost too good to be true for something of that weight. Can’t wait to see how they evolve and additional thoughts as you put in more wear time.I guess everything is relative but I'm at the end of my day now and I've had them on for 17 hours. They do not feel like jeans I've worn for one day. They feel beautifully comfortable. As for the funny looking bird, wait until you see a profile shot
@spitfiredealer I've thought of you regarding these jeans a few times today. I think they will make you very happy.
@Appfaff @Jett129 @Chap @Brock @YesBlank thank you'll gents. I'll be wearing them regularly and posting pics too. @Giles informed me that the release will be a way off, so there should be plenty of time for us to get an idea of how they develop.
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@neph93 MashAllah , the denim don’t look skin tight and the hems are well proportioned. You look like well dressed high school teacher
Looking forward to your pictures . Now you have to rock this 22oz OD jacket.
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@Mustafa911 haha, Shukraan! Wallah, I had the jacket on today…
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555 suit you man, not too slim.
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Great review! I have a good opinion now on this denim. Are there plans to do this in the other cuts as well?
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Just curious….Do you normally wear jeans right out of the bag?
You mean without hemming or without soaking? I normally have my jeans hemmed as my inseam is short at 31”. As these were a sample it wasn’t discussed. Regarding soaking, I don’t bother if they are fully sanforised.
555 suit you man, not too slim.
Thank you. I think this more forgiving denim makes a lot of difference. Visually it doesn’t give as many telltales that the fabric is too tight. Very clever really.
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UPDATE - one week of wear…
I have now had the jeans for one week and have worn them six days out of the last seven. Obviously it is early but I have some reflections regarding fit, stretch and fading.
For those of us with experience of selvedge denim in general and the 21oz in particular we know that the way they fit on the first day will change, sometimes radically, over the next few days. The regular 21oz is a great example of this. The stretch that occurs in just a few days of use is marked and noticeable, not just at the waist but in the whole top block and often in the knees too. In addition the form of the garment changes due to this stretching, but also because of the formation of stacks, honeycombs and whiskers. With the 21oz Shinayaka denim this process of stretching and forming is either retarded or (after seven days at least), non-existent.
The general stretch has happened, they are marginally looser the the very first time I put them on. There was definitely some stretch after day one, but I can't trace any more after that. The back of the top block has stretched only a little and the knees barely at all. With the standard 21oz the stretching process can continue over the first week. Of course this process may continue to develop, just at a much slower rate than normal.
As I intimated in an earlier post, the creases do not form as readily. They do form, and the do stay inbetween wears, but it takes a little longer. The honeycombs have the best defintintion and retention, the creases over the hip have taken a while to set but are there now and becoming more defined and long lasting, and the stacks are barely defined at all.
Initially I was concerned that this may retard fading but I'm now tempted to think it won't. The standard 21oz is not a quick fader (but the results when they do fade are sublime). This denim appears to behave in a similar fashion. So while there shouldn't be much action after seven days, the bits that normally lose indigo are, upon close inspection, doing so. The interesection of the yoke and back rise is going electric blue, and the exposed corners of the backpockets also. The crotch area has that electric blue sheen to it as well and the indigo is getting lighter at the knee. I can just make out the changes in colour amongst the peaks and troughs of the honeycombs too. The denim is bleeding onto my old white adidas as well
My conclusion is that these will fade beautifully, although the wear patterns may be different to how they are on a tradtional pair of 21oz. My pair of IH-555-01 in W34 are now in Gosport so at some point in the future a comparison will be possible. Being a terrible geek I find that prospect very exciting
