IH-888-XHS - 25oz Selvedge Denim Medium/High Rise Tapered Cut Jeans - Indigo
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@bluemantra i think that looks ideal. How does it fit around the waist?
I just last night wore my brand new to me tagged 33 after a hot soak and cold rinse. The last button was very difficult to fasten. I had to lay down and suck my gut in. It was a struggle, but now 24 hours later, the waist and top block have relaxed and I can easily button everything - without any pressure or digging in to my hips.
The 888 is a revelation to me! I am a long time 555 and 666 owner, but never had the MOBILITY I’d prefer due to slimmer thigh/knee dimensions on those particular pants. Increasing tag sizes did not solve the MOBILITY issues I was having. These 888’s look just as modern as my other pants, but the higher rise and generous top block are a god send.
I have no real insight about sizing up or down. The jeans I’m wearing now were perfect everywhere pre-soak (towards the snug side) and I knew things would tighten up after the soak. I lost .5” in the inseam and they obviously snugged up in the waist. If I’m to be honest with myself, I should’ve sized up for a more comfortable pre-soak fit. But I’m glad I didn’t. I am definitely on the border of these being a size too small, but like I said they are definitely mellowing out and will be just fine.
I got a great deal from a forum member on these. They were brand new and hemmed to my ideal length, so I’m super pumped. -
I should add… I am keen to get another pair of 888 in 21oz, and when I do I will size them to be perfectly comfortable out of the box. I have no interest is going smaller/tighter and relying on the waist stretching. I want the waist perfect right away. If it stretches, great. I wear a belt. Also I’m looking forward to hiking them up to fully advantage the high rise - which directly equates to better mobility and all day comfort for me.
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@bluemantra ETA March
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@bluemantra which size would you choose based on your waist? Keep in mind that the rise on the 888 is higher.
For a comparison of the measurements see here
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Also take a look at this for a comparison between cuts: https://www.ironheart.co.uk/content/cut-comparison
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@bluemantra, the closest thing I have to a 777 will be my 25oz pronto double indigo. It's a Pronto cut but based on the 777. They are tag 40 and still slightly tight on the thigh. Needless to say I need a belt for the waist. The good thing is that the lower rise is more forgiving when the waist is big. To put it in perspective I can wear tag 36 in both 888's and 634. So in my case I have to go 2 tag sizes up to fit a 777 cut.
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@yannis Thank you. that is helpful. My 777 is a tag 33 with a 34" waist and the thigh is a little snug which I think prevents the pants from dropping too much. The 888 I'm looking at is a tag 32 and has a 33" waist. My tag 32 666 have been a bit snug in the top block with a 33" waist. I just don't want the 888 to be falling off. Here's some photo's of my 777. Would this be too much room in an 888?
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If I was you I would size the 888 to be snug in the waist. Snug like to be a little difficult to button the top button when new. With the 888 cut you don't have to worry about the thigh. It's roomier than both 777 and 666. Just get the waist right and the rest will fall into place. You definitely do not want the waist loose on the 888. Also remember the rise on the 888 is higher so it will sit closer to your natural waist and not hips. You may even able to go tag 31 on the 888's. Tag 32 will definitely fit you just not sure how you want them to fit.
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@Yoprst really cool shots!
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Herbert Wells "The Invisible Man"
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Hi. Sorry to ruin the 888 posts in the 888 post. But I am thinking this is the next pair I want to invest in. Question on waist stretch...on my 14s and 21s I've gotten around 2 inches of stretch in the waist; how much stretch beyond the listed waist can you get in these? (I got a belly working against me and leading to waist stretch, but like my pants snug and never had 888/high rise). I want something that ends around 42" in the waist after maximum stretch
36 777S-21
36 777SST
35 634S-ib-c
XXXL IHSH-293-OD
XXXL IHSH-130-GB
XXXL IHSH-337 -
I will really second this advice on sizing snug at the waist, especially since the thigh / knee areas are roomy by design. Like Yannis I had to lay down the first time but now it has relaxed and fits golden.
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@wjw There is not an exact science to it and everyone will experience slightly different levels of stretch unique to their body type and wear. 25oz will stretch out less than 14oz and 21oz, though. The denim is unwashed and once washed, you will experience some shrinkage - approximately one inch in the waist (the inseam will also shrink about an inch and all other dimensions in proportion to this). The waist will stretch back out to approximately what you started with, and potentially a little more when they soften and under continued wear. I would look to size so that they are comfortable out of the bag, this will give some room to deal with the initial shrinkage.
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@wjw I have mine on the pant stretcher right now. I'll measure when I get home and report back the max stretch I've gotten from the listed measurement (waist 35). I will say that 888XHS has been the hardest denim for me to get to wear comfortable. When I'm trending down in weight They fit comfortable, but with holiday lbs I have issues with discomfort, especially when sitting for long periods.
Adam said it right. Size them so they fit great out of the bag and and deal with the extra stretch. It's a much better route to go with the high rise than fighting for stretch.
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@wjw sorry for the delay. I had these on the stretcher in my guest bedroom and had an out of sight out of mind moment.
These stretched from 35” to 36.5” almost 37”.
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@jordanscollected those were 35" before the soak/wash/shrink or after? And I appreciate the response
