• Home
    • Recent
    • Calendar
    • Register
    • Login
    Iron Heart Forum
    Iron Heart Forum

    Iron Heart Fall/Winter 2025 Collection Preview - Now Live

    Random questions to which you seek an answer

    The Resource Centre
    725
    18.5k
    7.0m
    Loading More Posts
    • Oldest to Newest
    • Newest to Oldest
    • Most Votes
    Reply
    • Reply as topic
    Log in to reply
    This topic has been deleted. Only users with topic management privileges can see it.
    • BloodnThunderB
      BloodnThunder
      Raw and Unwashed
      Joined:

      @Giles is there any particular reason why Aspero cotton hasn't been incorporated into IH denim?  Considering one of the characteristics is strength would Aspero make for a very strong jean?  I suspect the cost of the denim would be quite a bit higher than the other lots, and the customer may see a $500-$600 price tag on a pair, but was more wondering if there was something about the cotton itself that makes it less conducive to being made into denim.

      Setting aside the fact there is potential IH may not be able to regularly acquire it in the future of course.

      IG: Shadesofindig0

      last edited by 1 Reply Last reply Reply Quote 0
      • GilesG
        Giles
        IHUK Crew
        Joined:

        I don't know.  But I suspect there is a good reason Aspero can't be used as effective denim yarn….

        "OK face up to it - you're useless but generally pretty honest and straightforward . . . it's a rare combination of qualities that I have come to admire in you" - Geo 2011

        last edited by 1 Reply Last reply Reply Quote 0
        • AnesthetistA
          Anesthetist
          見習いボス
          Joined:

          It sure makes one hell of an UHF though

          Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

          IG: bluehandsslim

          last edited by 1 Reply Last reply Reply Quote 0
          • BloodnThunderB
            BloodnThunder
            Raw and Unwashed
            Joined:

            @Anesthetist:

            It sure makes one hell of an UHF though

            Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

            Truth.

            IG: Shadesofindig0

            last edited by 1 Reply Last reply Reply Quote 0
            • 4c4
              4c
              Banned
              Joined:

              @BloodnThunder:

              @Giles is there any particular reason why Aspero cotton hasn't been incorporated into IH denim?  Considering one of the characteristics is strength would Aspero make for a very strong jean?  I suspect the cost of the denim would be quite a bit higher than the other lots, and the customer may see a $500-$600 price tag on a pair, but was more wondering if there was something about the cotton itself that makes it less conducive to being made into denim.

              Setting aside the fact there is potential IH may not be able to regularly acquire it in the future of course.

              Pretty sure H chose Aspero for the flannel because it has a soft woolly feel and more of a body to it than other cottons with natural kinks on the fibers making it more lofty… --> and perfect for a soft/rugged flannel. IH denim used to be Zimbabwe cotton and is now another equivalently nice variety so one can be fairly sure that it's not a matter of cost, but a matter of best cotton for the application. IH denim is soft, strong, and silky making it some of the best denim around. IH doesn't use anything less than the best; IH uses some kind of special/heirloom/long staple cotton for everything as far as I can tell, but they don't tend to talk about it. That's the only downside about talking about the cotton variety of the UHF; it gives a false sense that the other items are not also special cotton because it's not advertised. But it's all special 🙂

              last edited by 1 Reply Last reply Reply Quote 0
              • BloodnThunderB
                BloodnThunder
                Raw and Unwashed
                Joined:

                Thanks @4c, I'm definitely not questioning the quality of the other cottons.  If there is one thing that should never be questioned when it comes to IH it is the materials used.  It sounds like there are a few other characteristics of Aspero that make it more preferable for UHF than denim, which answers my question.

                IG: Shadesofindig0

                last edited by 1 Reply Last reply Reply Quote 0
                • CutlasshoundC
                  Cutlasshound
                  見習いボス
                  Joined:

                  Overdyed chambray. Other than the green/orange has there been another?

                  Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

                  I ain't got time to bleed.

                  last edited by 1 Reply Last reply Reply Quote 0
                  • GilesG
                    Giles
                    IHUK Crew
                    Joined:

                    http://www.ironheart.co.uk/extinct/ihsh-21bk.html

                    "OK face up to it - you're useless but generally pretty honest and straightforward . . . it's a rare combination of qualities that I have come to admire in you" - Geo 2011

                    last edited by 1 Reply Last reply Reply Quote 0
                    • CutlasshoundC
                      Cutlasshound
                      見習いボス
                      Joined:

                      Thanks G

                      Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

                      I ain't got time to bleed.

                      last edited by 1 Reply Last reply Reply Quote 0
                      • madmondayM
                        madmonday
                        Raw and Unwashed
                        Joined:

                        With all the heavy red buffalo check shirts why is the number changed? Shouldn't they all just be ihsh 20, kind of the way the 13 or 21 is?

                        head high, middle finger higher

                        last edited by 1 Reply Last reply Reply Quote 0
                        • GilesG
                          Giles
                          IHUK Crew
                          Joined:

                          Because they're not exactly the same.  Typically, if a detail, however small, changes, it is given a different model number.  The N1 changes model number each year because it get's tweaked.  Each iteration of the red/black buffalo changes, hence a new model number, but I guess you knew that…..

                          "OK face up to it - you're useless but generally pretty honest and straightforward . . . it's a rare combination of qualities that I have come to admire in you" - Geo 2011

                          last edited by 1 Reply Last reply Reply Quote 0
                          • madmondayM
                            madmonday
                            Raw and Unwashed
                            Joined:

                            Didn't the 21 change  from having the button things on the back & the selvedge ID?

                            Either way thanks for the response

                            head high, middle finger higher

                            last edited by 1 Reply Last reply Reply Quote 0
                            • summ3rhaysS
                              summ3rhays
                              Joined:

                              @Cutlasshound:

                              Overdyed chambray. Other than the green/orange has there been another?

                              Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

                              There was also the short sleeve IHSH-26.

                              IG: summ3rhays & Indigobleed

                              last edited by 1 Reply Last reply Reply Quote 0
                              • GilesG
                                Giles
                                IHUK Crew
                                Joined:

                                Good point @madmonday .  I can't remember if the 21 was the one with the buttons on the back, but that was a bad experiment and maybe H did not feel the shirt was actually that different and maybe the same with the selvedge ID, all he did was change that selvedge ID yarn.  But ultimately, I guess the real answer (and this is not being rude, just an observation), there may be no real reason at all, it is a national characteristic that the Japanese do have a tendency to over complicate things that don't need to be…

                                My favourite example of this tendency to over complicate and worry about things that may not happen, and I take the piss when it happens, is sometimes when I ask a question, there ensues a heated discussion/debate between my Japanese colleagues, during which time I have time to make a cup of tea, make a few internet purchases and hem a pair of jeans.  Sensing that the discussion is coming to a climactic end, I concentrate and wait for the answer.  It's invariable just one word - "yes".

                                "OK face up to it - you're useless but generally pretty honest and straightforward . . . it's a rare combination of qualities that I have come to admire in you" - Geo 2011

                                last edited by 1 Reply Last reply Reply Quote 0
                                • SeulS
                                  Seul
                                  Joined:

                                  last edited by 1 Reply Last reply Reply Quote 0
                                  • GilesG
                                    Giles
                                    IHUK Crew
                                    Joined:

                                    Because we only decided to archive stuff to "extinct" about 5 years after we started, so some stuff is lost in the mists of time….

                                    "OK face up to it - you're useless but generally pretty honest and straightforward . . . it's a rare combination of qualities that I have come to admire in you" - Geo 2011

                                    last edited by 1 Reply Last reply Reply Quote 0
                                    • GilesG
                                      Giles
                                      IHUK Crew
                                      Joined:

                                      When I discuss some stuff with H, he can't even remember….....And some of that early stuff......Well tops never came in anything larger than XL.  Hardly any of the early IHSH made it out of Japan......Rocking-horse shit....

                                      "OK face up to it - you're useless but generally pretty honest and straightforward . . . it's a rare combination of qualities that I have come to admire in you" - Geo 2011

                                      last edited by 1 Reply Last reply Reply Quote 0
                                      • FergzF
                                        Fergz
                                        Raw and Unwashed
                                        Joined:

                                        @neph93:

                                        I'm a total boot noob! I wear Adi Dasslers finest three stripes whenever I can, then I've got an old pair of generic steel caps for working in and an old pair of donated hunting boots for hiking/cabin trips and so on. The only casual boots I've got is a pair of black, lined Clarks that cost about $200 that I've had for autumn/winter use the last three years.

                                        I'm painfully aware that I need to up my boot game. I'm not quite ready to splurge $800 on some of the badassery available here. I'm just not sure I love boots that much (yet). So I'm thinking something more "entry level" that cost around $400, like Red Wings or Wolverines. They need to be able to tackle rain and not be useless in ice and snow. Lining isn't a must as woollen socks are boss.

                                        Here's the question: Based on the above, which boots should I buy?

                                        Definitely consider Oak Street Bootmakers if you're heading down the $400 path. I have a pair of rough out service boots that look and fit beautifully.

                                        Sent from my HTC One using Tapatalk

                                        "Better to beg for forgiveness than ask for permission"

                                        last edited by 1 Reply Last reply Reply Quote 0
                                        • FinksterF
                                          Finkster
                                          見習いボス
                                          Joined:

                                          @Fergz:

                                          Definitely consider Oak Street Bootmakers if you're heading down the $400 path. I have a pair of rough out service boots that look and fit beautifully.

                                          +1  … excellent boots

                                          last edited by 1 Reply Last reply Reply Quote 0
                                          • neph93N
                                            neph93
                                            見習いボス
                                            Joined:

                                            @Fergz:

                                            Definitely consider Oak Street Bootmakers if you're heading down the $400 path. I have a pair of rough out service boots that look and fit beautifully.

                                            Sent from my HTC One using Tapatalk

                                            Thanks for the tip.

                                            I ended up taking the golden middle way and got a pair of Viberg/IH collabs 2nd hand from a forum member. The IHVB-03CT. They happened to be the perfect size and the best boot for the conditions where I live. Synchronicity is a sexy mofo.

                                            Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

                                            “Some of those that work forces
                                            Are the same that burn crosses”

                                            • Virginia Woolf
                                            last edited by 1 Reply Last reply Reply Quote 0
                                            • First post
                                              Last post
                                            Copyright Iron Heart 2025.