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    • GilesG
      Giles
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      Not a lot.....

      The weft on the selvedge 21oz used to be white, Haraki changed it to beige some time after I started working with him, because he thought it would be better for my market.. So it could be old stock....

      What does the face feel/look like? The non-selvedge is super smooth compared to the selvedge.....

      "OK face up to it - you're useless but generally pretty honest and straightforward . . . it's a rare combination of qualities that I have come to admire in you" - Geo 2011

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      • OaktaviaO
        Oaktavia
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        @Giles 1000063607.jpg 1000063608.jpg 1000063611.jpg

        It feels pretty smooth and even. No irregularities that I can see.

        IG: electricindigowizard

        "Possibly splitting hairs, but I consider @Oaktavia to be the beardy, dank High Magus of this denim game…" @neph93

        WTB: IHJ-72- XL/XXL

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        • OaktaviaO
          Oaktavia
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          @Giles after scrolling through the IHC-06 page:

          @Giles said in IHC-06 - 21oz Indigo Denim Cap:

          I'm sure we can.  He is still not 100% happy with the patteren and is working on perfection at the mo'.  Here is his latest update to me:

          _Regular 21oz, CAP (IH-461 as denim) made 1st sample.

          @Giles said in IHC-06 - 21oz Indigo Denim Cap:

          It is the 634S selvedge denim.

          Haraki designed it so that it could be folded and stuffed into a pocket, but still retain its shape when un-schrunched.

          G

          IG: electricindigowizard

          "Possibly splitting hairs, but I consider @Oaktavia to be the beardy, dank High Magus of this denim game…" @neph93

          WTB: IHJ-72- XL/XXL

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          • GilesG
            Giles
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            So I contradict myself in those 2 posts, classic 🙂

            "OK face up to it - you're useless but generally pretty honest and straightforward . . . it's a rare combination of qualities that I have come to admire in you" - Geo 2011

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            • OaktaviaO
              Oaktavia
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              @Giles the top quote refers to the sample cap while the second is to the revised caps. Not sure it that helps or changes anything.

              IG: electricindigowizard

              "Possibly splitting hairs, but I consider @Oaktavia to be the beardy, dank High Magus of this denim game…" @neph93

              WTB: IHJ-72- XL/XXL

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              • S
                sabergirl
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                The cap was billed as selvedge when it was sold. I’m pretty sure that it is. I had a non selvedge 21oz type III that felt different.

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                • MattM
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                  Am I the only one here not at all shocked that @giles doesn’t know what he’s talking about?

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                  • GilesG
                    Giles
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                    I'm not.

                    Ann, thank you. I did not even think that the cap I bought back from The US to The Uk for @Oaktavia could be non-selvedge. But once the questions started I realised that I did not actually know. Well, I did once, but obviously forgot....

                    "OK face up to it - you're useless but generally pretty honest and straightforward . . . it's a rare combination of qualities that I have come to admire in you" - Geo 2011

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                    • OaktaviaO
                      Oaktavia
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                      @Giles seems as though it's the old 21oz selvedge with the white weft @sabergirl is this what you remember? Fascinating chat this evening.

                      IG: electricindigowizard

                      "Possibly splitting hairs, but I consider @Oaktavia to be the beardy, dank High Magus of this denim game…" @neph93

                      WTB: IHJ-72- XL/XXL

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                      • bluemantraB
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                        Got a pair of jeans with two little vampire holes in the back pocket from the tag that was there I believe. Do these close up with wear and washing?

                        WTB IHJ-140-IG size L

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                        • seawolfS
                          seawolf
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                          @bluemantra very likely to close up and never to be seen again after washing.

                          “Good design is actually a lot harder to notice than poor design, in part because good designs fit our needs so well that the design is invisible” - Don Norman

                          @zeebeeleather

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                          • Go For ChillG
                            Go For Chill
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                            Has anyone ever installed a zipper on their heavy denim jeans? Is this considered sacrilege? Will I be walked through the street and shamed publicly?

                            "Opportunity is missed by most people because it is dressed in overalls and looks like work." -Thomas Edison

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                            • chrisjohnnickC
                              chrisjohnnick
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                              @Go-For-Chill Which cut are you wearing? I know the 634 had a zippered version (IH-634Z)

                              Wants List:
                              IHSH-20-Red, XL
                              IHSH-208-Indigo Kersey, L-XL
                              IHSH-254-Grey Kersey, L-XL
                              IHSW-45 Black, M
                              IH-526SV 21oz type III, 38 or 40
                              IH-777S-SB size 32
                              IH-777S-142 size 31 or 32

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                              • Tago MagoT
                                Tago Mago
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                                @Go-For-Chill FYI, I have moved your question here. And no, certainly not sacrilege:

                                https://www.ironheart.co.uk/forum/topic/5371/ih-634z-21oz-denim-straight-cut-jeans-indigo

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                                • Mister_BrueM
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                                  • Go For ChillG
                                    Go For Chill
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                                    Tago, thanks! I'm still learing where everything goes in this forum.

                                    chrisjohnnick, I have the 634 in 21oz right now, but I'm looking at a pair of 633 in 25oz. I work in live production and half of my bathroom breaks are done as quickly as humanly possible.

                                    "Opportunity is missed by most people because it is dressed in overalls and looks like work." -Thomas Edison

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                                    • mitzimeowM
                                      mitzimeow
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                                      @popvulture It's interesting to see these recommendations. I appreciate them, but to be honest, I can't picture myself buying a stretcher. Maybe I'd create some kind of jig....
                                      The question it raises to me though is why the same malleability wouldn't occur from just wearing the pants as I have for the past five months... Would cold washing them help? A while ago I dropped a spot of acrylic paint on the pants and in trying to dab the spot off the dye really bled from the area in a way that scared me from washing them for good...

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                                      • GardenStateG
                                        GardenState
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                                        I am probably just not observant enough, but does IH make a "greencast" denim? I prefer black denim but am a sucker for indigo denim that has that slight green undertone to it.

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                                        • GilesG
                                          Giles
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                                          We do not I am afraid. And the reason we stopped using Zimbabwean cotton is that it gave our denims a green cast that Haraki did not like, so I can't see him trying to add one...

                                          "OK face up to it - you're useless but generally pretty honest and straightforward . . . it's a rare combination of qualities that I have come to admire in you" - Geo 2011

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                                          • jordanscollectedJ
                                            jordanscollected
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                                            @mitzimeow I respect your opinion on it, but the $30 stretcher was the difference in me selling a $400 pair of denim at a huge loss.

                                            To me it was a no brainer.

                                            My first pair of raw denim jeans was some unknown brand that no longer exists and I sized them too small. I crossed my arms and dealt with it stubbornly for like 8 months thinking they would just stretch a little more and the problem would be resolved. That day never came.

                                            world tours:
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                                            Wabidashery

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