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    • motojoboboM
      motojobobo
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      I'd like to learn about the differences between UHR and XHS IH denim, beyond the 21/23 and 25 oz weights.

      I gather the names imply 'ultra heavy raw' and 'extra heavy selvedge'; so beyond the raw characteristic of UHR and the selvedge quality of XHS; are there any other interesting distinctions?

      Does anyone have both denims and could comment on pros and cons?

      I understand UHR is unlikely to return, so is XHS a reasonable replacement?

      Thanks.

      The journey is the objective.

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      • GilesG
        Giles
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        https://www.ironheart.co.uk/content/our-cuts-denims

        "OK face up to it - you're useless but generally pretty honest and straightforward . . . it's a rare combination of qualities that I have come to admire in you" - Geo 2011

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        • neph93N
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          @motojobobo:

          Does anyone have both denims and could comment on pros and cons?

          I understand UHR is unlikely to return, so is XHS a reasonable replacement?

          The only things they really have in common is that they are both at the heavyweight end of the scale and they are both indigo selvedge. Otherwise their hand, colour, fading etc. are all quite different from each other, and in fact unique from other IH denim as well.

          The XHS is much darker in colour and breathes slightly better than the UHR. It is heavy and stiff out if the bag but softens amazingly with wear. Takes a while to start fading but when it does you get high contrast, vertical fading.

          The UHR is very crunchy and needs watering out of the bag. It gets very dense and tight after the soak and has a lighter indigo colour than nearly every other IH denim. It then pisses out indigo like no ones business and creates great fades. It's also hairy and has loads of character.

          I have the 666XHS and the BB UHR. I love both denims but they are in no way interchangeable as they very have different properties.

          «Stevie Heighway on the wing!
          We had dreams, and songs to sing…»

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          • 501IH5
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            Great elaboration @neph93, it not only is informative, but speaks of true denim appreciation. Trés cool!

            Keep your jeans on–-and let nothing come in between you and the denim !

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            • QinhanQ
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              Does anyone have any ideas about sourcing a high-quality, pure melton wool alternative to a pea coat?  Ideally, I'm thinking about an overcoat that is built from heavy melton wool but is single-breasted.  I already own a Real McCoy's pea coat and wear the heck out of it in the colder months.  This is basically me just brainstorming ideas for alternatives.

              Note: I've already looked at Schott, Fidelity and other US manufacturers and all there stuff is wool/nylon blend.  I'm looking for something well-made and high quality and don't mind paying for quality and for a manufacturer that produces their goods ethically.

              Thoughts or suggestions greatly appreciated!  🙂

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              • steelworkerS
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                Need Supply. has a few  wool overcoats on sale -meaning priced close to reality

                Those are my principles, and if you don't like them…
                Well, I have others.

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                • QinhanQ
                  Qinhan
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                  Appreciate the suggestion.  Couldn't find anything on their site that grabbed me although, admittedly, this isn't the season to be shopping for this type of thing.

                  Happy to hear more suggestions if you have 'em.

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                  • organisysO
                    organisys
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                    Browse this.
                    http://www.privatewhitevc.com/gbp/online-shop/mens/coats-jackets/options/wool.html

                    Pride of Japan :-)

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                    • neph93N
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                      @501/IH:

                      Great elaboration @neph93, it not only is informative, but speaks of true denim appreciation. Trés cool!

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                      «Stevie Heighway on the wing!
                      We had dreams, and songs to sing…»

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                      • manufc10M
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                        @neph93:

                        @motojobobo:

                        Does anyone have both denims and could comment on pros and cons?

                        I understand UHR is unlikely to return, so is XHS a reasonable replacement?

                        The only things they really have in common is that they are both at the heavyweight end of the scale and they are both indigo selvedge. Otherwise their hand, colour, fading etc. are all quite different from each other, and in fact unique from other IH denim as well.

                        The XHS is much darker in colour and breathes slightly better than the UHR. It is heavy and stiff out if the bag but softens amazingly with wear. Takes a while to start fading but when it does you get high contrast, vertical fading.

                        The UHR is very crunchy and needs watering out of the bag. It gets very dense and tight after the soak and has a lighter indigo colour than nearly every other IH denim. It then pisses out indigo like no ones business and creates great fades. It's also hairy and has loads of character.
                        I have the 666XHS and the BB UHR. I love both denims but they are in no way interchangeable as they very have different properties.

                        Sounds like me during a night of heavy drinking.

                        I'm really bummed I missed out on the UHR fabric, unfortunate it will not be made again.

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                        • DrBabyhorseD
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                          @neph93:

                          @motojobobo:

                          Does anyone have both denims and could comment on pros and cons?

                          I understand UHR is unlikely to return, so is XHS a reasonable replacement?

                          The only things they really have in common is that they are both at the heavyweight end of the scale and they are both indigo selvedge. Otherwise their hand, colour, fading etc. are all quite different from each other, and in fact unique from other IH denim as well.

                          The XHS is much darker in colour and breathes slightly better than the UHR. It is heavy and stiff out if the bag but softens amazingly with wear. Takes a while to start fading but when it does you get high contrast, vertical fading.

                          The UHR is very crunchy and needs watering out of the bag. It gets very dense and tight after the soak and has a lighter indigo colour than nearly every other IH denim. It then pisses out indigo like no ones business and creates great fades. It's also hairy and has loads of character.

                          I have the 666XHS and the BB UHR. I love both denims but they are in no way interchangeable as they very have different properties.

                          I have both (634 XHS, 666 UHR) and I agree with @neph.

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                          • Matty123M
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                            Ok, so ive narrowed down my next purchase to 3 styles of jeans all Indigo/indigo. the 633sii, 634sii and the 666sii. when i bought my 634s i sent them out to rail car to have them tapered from the crotch down. i had them tapered to measurements close to the 666 cut. can someone who has owned both the 634s and 666 please tell me what they find to be the major differences between the two styles? thanks

                            Maybe so. Maybe not

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                            • GilesG
                              Giles
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                              @manufc10:

                              I'm really bummed I missed out on the UHR fabric, unfortunate it will not be made again.

                              We actually have enough left to make 300-400 pairs jeans.  H has no plans for it, and I'm in two minds as to whether I make anything out of it…

                              "OK face up to it - you're useless but generally pretty honest and straightforward . . . it's a rare combination of qualities that I have come to admire in you" - Geo 2011

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                              • neph93N
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                                @Giles:

                                We actually have enough left to make 300-400 pairs jeans.  H has no plans for it, and I'm in two minds as to whether I make anything out of it…

                                Save it for the 2nd iteration of the new cut!

                                «Stevie Heighway on the wing!
                                We had dreams, and songs to sing…»

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                                • manufc10M
                                  manufc10
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                                  @Giles:

                                  @manufc10:

                                  I'm really bummed I missed out on the UHR fabric, unfortunate it will not be made again.

                                  We actually have enough left to make 300-400 pairs jeans.  H has no plans for it, and I'm in two minds as to whether I make anything out of it…

                                  oh man, well obviously I'm only one voice in the crowd but I would be very happy to see more jeans made out of it in either the 634  or new cut.

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                                  • tmgT
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                                    @neph93:

                                    @Giles:

                                    We actually have enough left to make 300-400 pairs jeans.  H has no plans for it, and I'm in two minds as to whether I make anything out of it…

                                    Save it for the 2nd iteration of the new cut!

                                    Great suggestion, I support this!

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                                    • Megatron1505M
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                                      @neph93:

                                      @Giles:

                                      We actually have enough left to make 300-400 pairs jeans.  H has no plans for it, and I'm in two minds as to whether I make anything out of it…

                                      Save it for the 2nd iteration of the new cut!

                                      Yes, yes and hell yes.

                                      Made in England, clothed in Japan, fed in America and drunk in Belgium !

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                                      • QinhanQ
                                        Qinhan
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                                        @organisys:

                                        Browse this.
                                        http://www.privatewhitevc.com/gbp/online-shop/mens/coats-jackets/options/wool.html

                                        Thanks @organisys .  I like Private White VC and appreciate the fact that they're manufacturing in the UK.  The few pieces of theirs that I've handled have been good quality.

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                                        • organisysO
                                          organisys
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                                          Yeah, dont own any myself but quality seems good.

                                          Pride of Japan :-)

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                                          • UnTuckedU
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                                            When is the official opening of the Osaka store?

                                            Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

                                            In search of:
                                            IHV-04, med.
                                            IHSH-185, large
                                            IHSH-186, large (khaki, and green)

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