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    Pearls Of (Denim) Wisdom - OR - This Much I Know (about denim).

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    • gaseousclayG
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      @manufc10:

      In my experience you wont get 100% of the shrink out on the initial soak but if you use hot water.and agitate a bit during that inital soak you will get the majority of the shrink out that first time.  Enough to where they won't be too tight after any future washes.

      So do you do a hot soak in the tub (or bucket) first and then put it through a hot wash in the machine?

      WTB:
      IHSH-129 size L (blue)
      IHSH-19

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      • manufc10M
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        @gaseousclay:

        @manufc10:

        In my experience you wont get 100% of the shrink out on the initial soak but if you use hot water.and agitate a bit during that inital soak you will get the majority of the shrink out that first time.  Enough to where they won't be too tight after any future washes.

        So do you do a hot soak in the tub (or bucket) first and then put it through a hot wash in the machine?

        I've only put one pair of unsanforized denim through a machine and that was the UHR's just because that's what the instructions say to do for that pair.  Any other pair of unsanforized/loomstate/raw denim that I've had I've soaked in hot water and agitated by hand…about 10 pairs or so.  Then from that point forward I've just hand washed them in cold water.

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        • manufc10M
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          Now you're reminding me of my Oni 517xxBE's that I sold….damn I miss those.... :'(....and for whatever reason Oni doesn't seem to make the 517 cut anymore....but I digress.

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          • neph93N
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            @gaseousclay:

            So do you do a hot soak in the tub (or bucket) first and then put it through a hot wash in the machine?

            You do. The site and relevant threads have instructions and jeans come with a printed A4 sheet.

            Because the UHR is loomstate it is extremely crispy and dry and the stitching sits up on the fabric. The soak helps the stitching to bed in. Without it the you risk it failing. The soak also prevents abrasion marks from the wash. The wash (heat and most importantly agitation does most of the shrinking.

            People say there’s more shrinkage to be had after the first routine but I’ve never noticed any. My first pair of UHR were a little big and They got three increasingly hot washes and two soaks before I started wearing them. Made no difference.

            They still fade quick af and have become my favourite relaxed pair. I suspect the incremental shrinkage is due to people being too easy on the heat and agitation first time around, but that is only a suspicion.

            «Stevie Heighway on the wing!
            We had dreams, and songs to sing…»

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            • neph93N
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              One conclusion I’ve come too is that your body shape combined with waist size may affect how you size up/down. High rise waists mean I can go down a size or even two. I’d manage an actual 33” waist in the 888, especially in the 21oz. I need 35” in the 777.

              «Stevie Heighway on the wing!
              We had dreams, and songs to sing…»

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              • DionD
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                Absolutely correct! To make sizing matters even more complicated I've found out that to get the length right it very much depends on the cut and the rise of the jeans. I can make a 33'' inseam work on a straight/loose/roomy top block cut but I need almost 35'' on tapered cuts. I think this has also been the case why you felt unsure about your 888-UHRs first, neph, as they were slightly too long but ended up being perfect after another hemming.

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                • ROmanR
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                  @neph93:

                  @gaseousclay:

                  So do you do a hot soak in the tub (or bucket) first and then put it through a hot wash in the machine?

                  You do. The site and relevant threads have instructions and jeans come with a printed A4 sheet.

                  Because the UHR is loomstate it is extremely crispy and dry and the stitching sits up on the fabric. The soak helps the stitching to bed in. Without it the you risk it failing. The soak also prevents abrasion marks from the wash. The wash (heat and most importantly agitation does most of the shrinking.

                  People say there’s more shrinkage to be had after the first routine but I’ve never noticed any. My first pair of UHR were a little big and They got three increasingly hot washes and two soaks before I started wearing them. Made no difference.

                  They still fade quick af and have become my favourite relaxed pair. I suspect the incremental shrinkage is due to people being too easy on the heat and agitation first time around, but that is only a suspicion.

                  Nicely stated…

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                  • ROmanR
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                    My Pearls of Denim Wisdom, I've lived in denim all my life. I've always worn jeans that I liked and may have considered great but due to manufacturing changes, these jeans changed, and the fit changed. I accepted this. They were Levi's. I live in the South, so in the heat of the summer I still wear them. My awakening was when I found Iron Heart and zeroed in on what worked and still works for me. I started with Self Edge in August 2014, lurked this forum and found the 1955 S and 1955 UHR, which are still my favorites. Next the Beatle buster UHR's became my favorites, and now the 888 UHR all work best for me. It's just knowing the style, (cut) and type of denim that will work with many different body types. Because I like the style type I probably buy 2 different sizes due to summer and winter weight changes, and I still want to wear these great jeans. I just do a normal initial soak, and then wash normally, and have never had any negative discrepancies. Glad to see more 888 UHR's are coming. I may have to get more…....

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                    • Matty123M
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                      Thanks @ROman and everybody else for sharing. I will contribute my thoughts soon as well. Thisforum keeps getting better and better.

                      Maybe so. Maybe not

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                      • J
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                        Really great thread,somehow I just found it. I also miss TMadd,but do still follow him on IG. I had thought I was pretty denim knowledgeable until I found this forum,and ,subsequently, got my first pair of IH. When I got my first pair of IH they very,nostalgically, reminded me of the Dungarees of my youth,and I wanted them to fade as such. Therefore I treat them pretty similarly to how I’ve treated all my jeans,with regular washing and sometimes drying(in a drier) My drier is nicknamed “Shrinkmaster 9000” as it gets any and all shrinkage out of any garment in one fell swoop and you’re done. On two occasions,as an absolute last resort,when I just wasn’t happy with the fit of a pair of jeans, I brought them to a tailor and had them tapered.

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