IHxB01xRAW Beatle Buster 18oz Raw Japanese Selvage Denim Indigo

[Giles]

I'd say yes…

[grabby22]

Will the leather patch get screwed up if I do a hot pre-soak?

[llvlaglne]

Just turn your faucet/tub to the hottest it'll allow. Allow the fibers to fully saturate and possibly agitate the jeans. Let it sit but not too long as it'll damage the patch

[Morose_Penguin]

So long as it's not boiling hot, no the patch should be fine. There's a video on the 634SR thread that shows an extra crispy patch ;).

[llvlaglne]

Someone in the Beatle buster(21oz) thread cooked their patch as well

[grabby22]

Cool thanks! But how long should I soak it in hot water for?

[Giles]

Does not matter if you give it a load of agitation.

Yarns and/or fabrics are not fixed materials.  They consist of separate fibres that will stretch when exposed to tension, i.e. they elongate during the process of being made into cloth (during spinning, weaving, bleaching, dyeing and the various finishing processes, yarns and cloth are under continuous tension).  Some or all of this stretch within the fabric is retained in the post-loom fabric because of friction between the fibres and the yarns.

The stretch that occurs can be eliminated when the friction within the fabric is reduced.  This will happen during  soaking and/or washing, where both water and soap act as lubricants.  The lubricants, along with the mechanical action of the washer, help the fibres relax and contract (shrink) back to their original length.

One of the reasons that dry cleaning does not shrink natural fabrics is that the friction within the fabric is not reduced by dampening.

[injunjack]

Throw them into the washing machine 60° without detergent. Remember to turn them inside out, and afterwards pull the wrinkles out…should do the trick. After this there may be some miniscular shrinkage left.

[Snowy]

@Giles:

Does not matter if you give it a load of agitation.

Yarns and/or fabrics are not fixed materials.  They consist of separate fibres that will stretch when exposed to tension, i.e. they elongate during the process of being made into cloth (during spinning, weaving, bleaching, dyeing and the various finishing processes, yarns and cloth are under continuous tension).  Some or all of this stretch within the fabric is retained in the post-loom fabric because of friction between the fibres and the yarns.

The stretch that occurs can be eliminated when the friction within the fabric is reduced.  This will happen during  soaking and/or washing, where both water and soap act as lubricants.  The lubricants, along with the mechanical action of the washer, help the fibres relax and contract (shrink) back to their original length.

One of the reasons that dry cleaning does not shrink natural fabrics is that the friction within the fabric is not reduced by dampening.

^One for the FAQ

[Seul]

Dear gents,

in need of someone who owns this pair in sz 32, has washed/ soaked them and has worn them for a couple of months…

Would that person be so kind to give me measurements of his/ her pair (inc backrise, inseam if they've been hemmed, legopening and waist)?..

I'm wearing these in sz 33 and they're good but a little loose if anything... Wondering if a sz 32 would be ok for me... If they stretch an inch, it should be perfect (even though I'd have to wear them during the first hotsoak and not wash them for the first month or two)...

[Bums_Fan]

Indecision and lack of available funds at the time the second run showed up equals no size 36.  Any chance of a 36 lying around in Gosport or Japan unaccounted for?  Will there be a 3rd run some point in the future?  Or does someone have a pair that is relatively unused and not hemmed that they would like to part with?

[Giles]

Likely do another run, but not for a few months.  G

[Seul]

Phew - no size 32 left… 

[Bums_Fan]

Thanks for the quick response G.

[xchen]

I'll have to add myself to the list for the restock.  Love that denim but 666s is just too slim in the thigh to work for me.

[riffblaster general]

hey seul…i have a 32.  after soaking a couple times and wearing they measure 32 on the nose.

[Seul]

Thanks.

[Jpie14]

Imma pull the trigger on these later this week so I can have a better pair of denim worthy of my IH super tan belt. Although, these would perfect if I could get them overdyed..

[Soi]

@Giles:

One of the reasons that dry cleaning does not shrink natural fabrics is that the friction within the fabric is not reduced by dampening.

I hate to contradict the denim guru, but "dry cleaning" means cleaning using a solvent other than water, rather than not using any liquid at all. Dry cleaned clothes still soak in liquid (typically tetrachloroethylene).

[Giles]

Stand corrected, but that now leads to the question, why do they not shrink when dry cleaned…..?