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    • goosehdG
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      @neph93

      I love neutral grip for bench press.  I purchased this about 5 months ago and it's been great.  I do my 5x5 workout with a straight bar and accessory lifts with the Kabuki Strength Cadillac Bar (pictured below).  Also called Swiss Bar or Football Bar.

      The different grips allow me to concentrate on Triceps, neutral bench or wide grip bench.  I also find that it is great for OHP.  Benching with this forces my elbows into the correct position during the entire lift.  I then try to mimic the motion during straight bar bench.

      I often do warm up with dumbbell bench which allows me to do a full range of motion.  It sounds like you are on a great track and I wish you the best.

      "I don't give a shit what anyone else is doing, we will do what is best for us and our customers" - Giles P. :)

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      • neph93N
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        That looks like a very useful piece of kit. It’ll be sending that on to the guys that run my gym.

        “Some of those that work forces
        Are the same that burn crosses”

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        • DmartD
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          @goosehd:

          slight heel raise (Adidas Adipower).  It puts my knee in a better position for the lift.

          My gym has these wedges to achieve this if you don't have the shoes, they are also cheap to purchase if yours does not provide them

          Just make sure you don’t wear just sneakers, you should use a flat hard sole, that’s the benefit of the powerlifting shoes like the Adipower. Once load gets heavy, the sole of a sneaker is not stable enough, and power transfer is way better with a hard sole. I still rotate my powerlifting shoes with my good ol chucks but squat with wider stance in these.

          In regards to shoulder issues. I had surgery on my right shoulder and still after 11 years have issues with it if I am not careful. The best advice I could give you. Don’t force it. The shoulder is the most complex joint in your body. Proper warm up is a must and reserve some time (lots of time) for shoulder mobility and stability exercises. Proper form and technique should always be prioritized, especially once you are not in your twenties anymore. This really helped me to still be able to lift fairly heavy but I have to put my ego aside, which might be the most difficult thing…. I know these mobility and warm up exercises are not as sexy as benching two plates for reps but it will help you in the long run.

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          • JDelageJ
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            In addition to everything that has been said above, I have found various flavors of kinstretch / FRC extremely helpful for re-hab / prehab. For shoulders, Y hovers, swimmers, shoulder CARs, etc, have been very useful for me. I have also enjoyed the sand flail, which can be made as light as necessary and will take your shoulder through all its axes.

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            • goosehdG
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              @JDelage I like that sand flail and being able to adjust the weight as needed.  Thank you!

              "I don't give a shit what anyone else is doing, we will do what is best for us and our customers" - Giles P. :)

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              • neph93N
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                @Dmart I have the AdiPowers. Bought them four years ago along with a proper lifting belt and straps when I was consistently looking for better 1RM's on my squats and deadlifts.

                I've done a lot of shoulder stability preps and shoulder warm ups and I honestly feel like they are doing more harm than good. If I practice form discipline on the bench and OHP and warm up with light weights then my shoulder does fine. I feel like the big moment will be when 5x5 becomes limiting and I need a more varied programme. The volume will increase and different movements will create more stress on the shoulder. But I'm months away from that yet.

                “Some of those that work forces
                Are the same that burn crosses”

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                • Paul9221P
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                  On this topic, if you haven't already read it, I cannot recommend Mark Rippetoe's Starting Strength book enough for proper form on the main lifts:  bench, overhead press, squat, deadlift, cleans, etc.  He goes into agonizing detail on the physics of the lift and why it should be done that way.  I am obsessive about form and this is the only reference manual that I use:

                  https://www.amazon.com/Starting-Strength-Mark-Rippetoe-ebook/dp/B006XJR5ZA/ref=sr_1_2

                  Blanket-line all the things!!!

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                  • zhivagoZ
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                    MTB comes with stupid high potential for injury as well, so I really don’t have that much room to talk…

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                    I had to come to terms with certain activities being curtailed after the PCL tear. Skiing is out, football is out (at least anything more than a kickabout with my little ones at any rate). It’s not a major bummer as life is full of fun stuff That’s is PCL friendly.

                    Happily not only is weightlifting one of them, it is also the best medicene as it increases balance, stability and strength while the larger, denser muscle will also protect the knee from further damage.

                    It is absolutely true that there is no substitute for resistance training of some variety when it comes to taking care of your body. I have found a great relationship with kettlebells. Some people like free weights, seems like resistance bands are trending currently. Whatever let's you get it done and keeps you sticking with it is what is best IMO.

                    Zhivago

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                    G: "Never once did he bitch, moan or complain.  He just motivated the team and got on with it"

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                    • GraemeG
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                      I've also been struggling to get back into lifting this year. Over the last twelve months, we've had two major lockdowns, and one or two shorter ones, which has killed momentum. On top of that, I had my wisdom teeth pulled out in January, which put me out of action.

                      I have scoliosis, which is playing up. Squats and deadlifts seem to aggravate it, but it's a lot better when my core is stronger. Lamar Gant was a fellow sufferer, serious powerlifter, and #backgoals.

                      If I was in Melbourne, I'd go and see Dr Andrew Lock, who is a physio genius. But that's a three hour drive. 😞

                      I tried a session yesterday where I avoided squats and deadlifts, and I feel kinda dirty for doing so, though I take solace in the fact that the Rock doesn't do them, and he's twice as big as I am. However, I'm feeling it today.

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                      • Paul9221P
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                        How bad is your scoliosis, @Graeme ?  I have a very minor case of it, though it probably affects me more than I realize.

                        Blanket-line all the things!!!

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                        • GraemeG
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                          I don't think that it's too bad @Paul9221 as it was only diagnosed a couple of years ago. But I've been having quite a bit of back pain recently. I dropped by partner off at work this morning, which is about a thirty minute round trip, and it was really sore when I got out of the car.

                          I suspect that it's a combination of getting out of shape, getting a bit older (and the associated wear and tear that implies), and maybe the weather getting cooler as we head into winter in the southern hemisphere.

                          There have been times when it doesn't give me trouble, and they're the times when I'm deadlifting regularly. Unfortunately, I can't seem to get my core into a fit state to cope with that!

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                            @Graeme:

                            I don't think that it's too bad @Paul9221 as it was only diagnosed a couple of years ago. But I've been having quite a bit of back pain recently. I dropped by partner off at work this morning, which is about a thirty minute round trip, and it was really sore when I got out of the car.

                            I suspect that it's a combination of getting out of shape, getting a bit older (and the associated wear and tear that implies), and maybe the weather getting cooler as we head into winter in the southern hemisphere.

                            There have been times when it doesn't give me trouble, and they're the times when I'm deadlifting regularly. Unfortunately, I can't seem to get my core into a fit state to cope with that!

                            We're probably in the same boat, scoliosis-wise.

                            Have you tried foam rolling your back, or rolling it with a lacrosse ball?  It's such a simple maintenance that hugely alleviates my back pain.

                            Blanket-line all the things!!!

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                            • GraemeG
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                              I've got a foam roller here, so I should try it. Thanks.

                              Andrew Lock has a series of warm up exercises that are great at stabilising the spine and other vulnerable joints. I can't remember all of them, but they include McGill curl ups, clams, and bird dogs.

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                                @neph93 maybe don’t increase volume too much on pressing movements. Me for example I can’t do any OHP anymore, high incline bench is the highest I can get due to restricted range of motion in my right shoulder. 5x5 is in my opinion a solid program. I would vary only in assistance/accessory lifts but would keep it for the big four if you keep progressing.

                                While I was still playing football, american football, I used the 531 program with lots of success. It can get boring but it worked for me and served the purpose to get stronger and quicker. To date, I still apply the same principles but more tailored to my individual limitations in terms of range of motion and play around more, but I believe that I know my body now and understood what works and what doesn’t. It’s a marathon, not a sprint.

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                                • neph93N
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                                  @neph93 maybe don’t increase volume too much on pressing movements.

                                  I would vary only in assistance/accessory lifts but would keep it for the big four if you keep progressing.

                                  This is pretty much my plan now. Thanks for the input!

                                  “Some of those that work forces
                                  Are the same that burn crosses”

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                                  • goosehdG
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                                    @neph93 How does it feel to be back in the gym?  Everything falling back in place?

                                    "I don't give a shit what anyone else is doing, we will do what is best for us and our customers" - Giles P. :)

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                                    • neph93N
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                                      @neph93 How does it feel to be back in the gym?  Everything falling back in place?

                                      Tell you in a minute [emoji1]

                                      “Some of those that work forces
                                      Are the same that burn crosses”

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                                      • goosehdG
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                                        Looking good!!

                                        "I don't give a shit what anyone else is doing, we will do what is best for us and our customers" - Giles P. :)

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                                        • GilesG
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                                          Hahahahahahaha

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                                          • neph93N
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                                            Looking good!!

                                            @Giles:

                                            Hahahahahahaha

                                            I’ve been meaning to update here actually. I’m into week 4 of the 5x5 programme, haven’t missed a workout or a rep or a target yet.

                                            I decided to be loyal to the programme initially but starting weights were too light and I found myself adding reps to get a satisfactory workout. This defies the object of a low volume programme so I’ve bumped the weights by 5kg instead of 2.5kg on all excercises a few times.

                                            That being said, I love the simplicity of it, lack of endless isolation reps, the very satisfying feeling of working the whole body, all the time. And I love squats, so having them at the bottom of every workout is great. I’ve got my eye on 100kg for squats and deadlifts by the end of July.

                                            My knee is coping fine, my shoulder is a little inflammed and aggravated, but nothing I can’t deal with. I think the bench press is partially responsible, but I added Dips to workout A and chin ups to workout B, so the Dips didn’t help the problem. I’ve dumped them and am looking for a composite excercise with focus on triceps, that doesn’t stress the shoulders, to replace them. Maybe Close Grip Bench, maybe decline bench, maybe something else. Suggestions are welcome.

                                            “Some of those that work forces
                                            Are the same that burn crosses”

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