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    Iron Heart Fall/Winter 2025 Collection Preview - Now Live

    Time For a New Jeans Cut….

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    • riffblaster generalR
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      @Giles:

      @neph93:

      Giles will need sales from retailers and from outside of the forum to make it work financially.

      On this one, I am confident enough about it's reception that I won't need retailer orders.  I'd like them of course, but it's not a gating factor…

      I'm already frothing to buy a pair!

      PUT DOWN THAT STARBUCKS, PICK UP THAT GNARBUCKS!!

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      • neph93N
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        @Giles:

        On this one, I am confident enough about it's reception that I won't need retailer orders.  I'd like them of course, but it's not a gating factor…

        As a matter of interest and speculation though, how do you think the retailers would react to a new cut without the selvedge ID? Do any of them take the non-selvedge jeans now?

        «Stevie Heighway on the wing!
        We had dreams, and songs to sing…»

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        • riffblaster generalR
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          @neph93:

          ^ I completely agree with you mate. I care not a bit about the ID. I just know that SE got the selvedge ID on the 301's first chance they had, and the denim/style forums of the time were full of people turning their noses up because "it wasn't selvedge".

          I'm sure IH's market has matured a lot since then and as regulars, we know the value of the brand, not just the gimmicks. But I'm not sure the wider market will want jeans without the ID and suspect Giles will need sales from retailers and from outside of the forum to make it work financially.

          Totally. I have absolute faith that the build quality of any IH piece will be top notch and that generally speaking there is a reason for every detail being included or left out.  To me needing the selvedge showing is the same mindset as leaving the sticker on a new era cap.  I'm not saying that's bad or wrong… it just isn't something that matters to me personally.

          PUT DOWN THAT STARBUCKS, PICK UP THAT GNARBUCKS!!

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          • GilesG
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            Self Edge take the IH-461 - that's about it really.

            I think if I told them that the new cut had no selvedge ID, I'd get zippo orders…...

            "OK face up to it - you're useless but generally pretty honest and straightforward . . . it's a rare combination of qualities that I have come to admire in you" - Geo 2011

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            • GilesG
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              On another point, I have been looking at the 1955S cut (as I am contemplating doing a run in 14oz), we manage to keep the selvedge ID with quite a lot of taper, so that's good news….

              "OK face up to it - you're useless but generally pretty honest and straightforward . . . it's a rare combination of qualities that I have come to admire in you" - Geo 2011

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              • SeulS
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                Best of both worlds… I cuff everything... Selvedge line not a dealbreaker at all... But would prefer it... Just cause I'm a bit of a nerd like that I guess... And it looks good... 🙂

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                • spitfiredealerS
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                  UES 400t is another cut that has a strong taper and has the selvedge showing.

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                  • GilesG
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                    That does not make it a "good" cut.  All the taper has to come out of the inseam, which if you do too much completely screws things up…

                    "OK face up to it - you're useless but generally pretty honest and straightforward . . . it's a rare combination of qualities that I have come to admire in you" - Geo 2011

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                    • riffblaster generalR
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                      @Giles:

                      On another point, I have been looking at the 1955S cut (as I am contemplating doing a run in 14oz), we manage to keep the selvedge ID with quite a lot of taper, so that's good news….

                      this actually got me to revisit the 1955 and look at the measurements.  i may have to try a 14 oz!

                      PUT DOWN THAT STARBUCKS, PICK UP THAT GNARBUCKS!!

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                        Will you the fly still be three button, or go up to four?

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                        • AppfaffA
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                          Please be four, please be four, please be four…

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                          • Max PowerM
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                            The ues 400t was my favorite of all the cuts i tried so far and would be somewhat close to the lifters jeans we're talking about

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                            > I don't care what people say.. The Max Power way is the right way…

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                            • GilesG
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                              I am afraid we will not call these the 575 or lifters jeans.  For all you lifters out there, you may find this hard to believe, but it'll throttle sales from non lifters….

                              "OK face up to it - you're useless but generally pretty honest and straightforward . . . it's a rare combination of qualities that I have come to admire in you" - Geo 2011

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                                But we still get a Ferrari with every purchase, right?.. I'll settle for this'un:

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                                • DionD
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                                  Is this a Ferrari funeral car?

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                                  • SeulS
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                                    Well at least it will hold a couple of cases of beer, was my thinking…

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                                    • GilesG
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                                      So would this but I still prefer Vanny…..

                                      "OK face up to it - you're useless but generally pretty honest and straightforward . . . it's a rare combination of qualities that I have come to admire in you" - Geo 2011

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                                      • ShoremanS
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                                        @el:

                                        Will you the fly still be three button, or go up to four?

                                        A three button fly? I can't imagine that working with these…at all.

                                        Meek, mild and dishonest with a special place in Hell.

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                                        • JDelageJ
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                                          @Giles:

                                          On another point, I have been looking at the 1955S cut (as I am contemplating doing a run in 14oz), we manage to keep the selvedge ID with quite a lot of taper, so that's good news….

                                          Exciting…

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                                          • BloodnThunderB
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                                            @Appfaff:

                                            Please be four, please be four, please be four…

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                                            This….  Three button means the fly/rise is really low and looks almost like a women's jean.  Or the buttons are spaced so far apart if you wear your jeans on the slim side it looks like your frank and beans are about to pop the buttons.

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