Time For a New Jeans Cut….
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No. I'm trying to think of some great imagery for the patch, that will drive the lot number, not the other way around.
I tend to think of roomy thighed, tapered cuts as being perfect for squatters (that is people who do squats in the gym, not people with a dubious relationship to property ownership).
The current squat record is 575kg. So call them 575's, tie in heavy weights with heavy denim for the graphics and you're onto a winner.
EDIT: imagery could be a barbell with three plates on each end, bending in the middle under the strain, and a 5,7 and 5 on the rim of the plates.
Shit drawing but you get the idea:
Left Field makes a cut that has a similar concept called the Charles Atlas. It's a good fit. I've been hoping for IH to do something similar.
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@riffblaster:
^ me neither. But judging by SE's experience with the first run of the 301's a few years ago, enough people do so, that it may affect the financial viability of the cut.
form over function for me. if your jeans have a leather ironheart tag, a red w, and the arcs then we all know the quality is unparalleled and worth every penny. i prefer the original 301 cut to the updated version. it's noticeably different. also with as "hip" as selvedge jeans have become i sort of relish the idea of cuffing a pair of non selvedge jeans and thumbing my nose at all the denim "purists" not to mention that it wastes alot more fabric. I get needing to cater to what the customer wants but like Giles said you cant eat your cake and have it to. A cut like this isn't necessarily conducive to selvedge showing. I'm totally cool with that. I want the cut and the fit, i don't need to show off to everyone else that i spent the money.
^ I completely agree with you mate. I care not a bit about the ID. I just know that SE got the selvedge ID on the 301's first chance they had, and the denim/style forums of the time were full of people turning their noses up because "it wasn't selvedge".
I'm sure IH's market has matured a lot since then and as regulars, we know the value of the brand, not just the gimmicks. But I'm not sure the wider market will want jeans without the ID and suspect Giles will need sales from retailers and from outside of the forum to make it work financially.
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On this one, I am confident enough about it's reception that I won't need retailer orders. I'd like them of course, but it's not a gating factor…
As a matter of interest and speculation though, how do you think the retailers would react to a new cut without the selvedge ID? Do any of them take the non-selvedge jeans now?
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^ I completely agree with you mate. I care not a bit about the ID. I just know that SE got the selvedge ID on the 301's first chance they had, and the denim/style forums of the time were full of people turning their noses up because "it wasn't selvedge".
I'm sure IH's market has matured a lot since then and as regulars, we know the value of the brand, not just the gimmicks. But I'm not sure the wider market will want jeans without the ID and suspect Giles will need sales from retailers and from outside of the forum to make it work financially.
Totally. I have absolute faith that the build quality of any IH piece will be top notch and that generally speaking there is a reason for every detail being included or left out. To me needing the selvedge showing is the same mindset as leaving the sticker on a new era cap. I'm not saying that's bad or wrong… it just isn't something that matters to me personally.
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UES 400t is another cut that has a strong taper and has the selvedge showing.
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On another point, I have been looking at the 1955S cut (as I am contemplating doing a run in 14oz), we manage to keep the selvedge ID with quite a lot of taper, so that's good news….
this actually got me to revisit the 1955 and look at the measurements. i may have to try a 14 oz!
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Will you the fly still be three button, or go up to four?
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Please be four, please be four, please be four…
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The ues 400t was my favorite of all the cuts i tried so far and would be somewhat close to the lifters jeans we're talking about
