IH-777-XHS - 25oz Selvedge Denim Super Slim Tapered Jeans - Indigo

[spitfiredealer]

These look great. Sure they will produce some awesome fades.

[Kathrynnaomi]

Best fades I've ever seen on this denim!

[Dion]

Agreed! Simply beautiful!

[superfuzz]

Really leaning towards getting a pair of these for the fall.

[Appfaff]

@W1N:

Having these in the basket ready to go. But..

I have my 301S waist 37. Should I size up or size down on these heavier ones? 38.5 seems kinda big..

From my experience, the 301S come up about 2 Inches larger than tagged size and stretch to 3-4" over tagged size in the waist. The XHS won't have nearly the same stretch, so I would measure where the waist and thighs are now, and then pick the corresponding size in the 777-XHS based on presoak measurements. I'm guessing your size 301S are a size 36. If this is the case, I would probably go with the size 38 in the 777XHS. Although they are too big for me now, my size 301S size 38 would fall directly in between the size 38 and size 40 777-XHS based on comparing measurements. But make sure you measure the way Giles recommended, so you can make sure you are comparing apples to apples. The biggest difference in the 21oz and the 25oz denim will be the amount of flexibility in the thigh/crotch - the 21 oz is quite mobile, where the XHS is, well, "not mobile" in really tight.

[Kathrynnaomi]

Now would you experts say that this denim is tougher to break in and wear than the UHR?

[Giles]

Not in my opinion…

[Anesthetist]

I'm typically a 33, but a 34 actually looks really good…

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[neph93]

@Kathrynnaomi:

Now would you experts say that this denim is tougher to break in and wear than the UHR?

I have the 666's in XHS, with about 60 days wear (no washes/soaks) on them and Busters in UHR which are new with a weeks wear. They have been vigourously washed though, to remove shrinkage.

For me they are two totally different beasts. I found the UHR much easier to get on with during the first week whereas the XHS was, erm, quite challenging. However the XHS are softening nicely now and my understanding is that the UHR stay quite crunchy. I love both fabrics but they really are very different.

[superfuzz]

Is Self Edge getting these? I'd like to try a pair on before taking the plunge.

[Kathrynnaomi]

@neph93:

@Kathrynnaomi:

Now would you experts say that this denim is tougher to break in and wear than the UHR?

I have the 666's in XHS, with about 60 days wear (no washes/soaks) on them and Busters in UHR which are new with a weeks wear. They have been vigourously washed though, to remove shrinkage.

For me they are two totally different beasts. I found the UHR much easier to get on with during the first week whereas the XHS was, erm, quite challenging. However the XHS are softening nicely now and my understanding is that the UHR stay quite crunchy. I love both fabrics but they really are very different.

Interesting, many thanks

[Giles]

@superfuzz:

Is Self Edge getting these? I'd like to try a pair on before taking the plunge.

Nope….

[superfuzz]

Ok! Thanks for the quick response. Might bite the bullet anyway if I have the funds.

[Mario3309]

2 very minor questions:

1. Are the back pockets lined on this model? I guess they're not, as the fabric's already very heavy as it is.

2. Does this model have the selvedge fly construction detail?

Thanks 

[Giles]

Yes and yes….

We'll update the description now and add some more photos later....

[W1N]

Checked my 301S and so it is, Giles, you were right. 301S (size 36) are about 38.5 (worn about three times). Inseam is 8.1 and FR/RR 10.8/14.6.

What size would you recommend? I prefer as slim as possible. It seems 38 is about right with stretch.

[neph93]

I'm going to suggest a tag W36 as long as you can manage the thigh. See if IHUK can find you a pair around 37". My first IH were 301s W36 and they ended up at 39" with a 13.5" thigh. The XHS is hard work and takes longer to stretch but it is worth it.

[Giles]

Tricky…..the 38 is already at 38.5, I think they'll stretch to more than 38.5.  Do you want @Winchy  to look for a small tag size 38, or perhaps even a large tagsize 36?

[W1N]

@Giles:

Tricky…..the 38 is already at 38.5, I think they'll stretch to more than 38.5.  Do you want @Winchy  to look for a small tag size 38, or perhaps even a large tagsize 36?

Depends how much they'll stretch? basically I'd prefer larger tagsize 36 because of the smaller inseam and if they stretch to about 38.5 that would be perfect.

[W1N]

@neph93:

I'm going to suggest a tag W36 as long as you can manage the thigh. See if IHUK can find you a pair around 37". My first IH were 301s W36 and they ended up at 39" with a 13.5" thigh. The XHS is hard work and takes longer to stretch but it is worth it.

I measured my 301s and at 36 these are 38.5 unused, so I would expect them to stretch much larger the 39"