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    • J-diddyJ
      J-diddy
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      @motojobobo:

      Great post @J-diddy ! I'll take the opportunity to ask you several questions.

      Great to see your three engineers lined up to allow comparison of toe types. I generally like the low profile toe engineers but I've started considering the other ones as well. What does Wesco call the three types of toe profile? I may take the plunge this year… Related question, do you take the same size regardless of toe type? Do they fit you the same?

      Also, are these all custom orders? I see all three have uninterrupted leather heel stack...which I REALLY like. But I usually see heel stacks with the rubber sole cutting through the heel stack.

      Your last boot, the olive LTT is beautiful. Would you mind sharing the build details for it? Is it a custom order? Do you size the same on the LTT as the engineers?

      Apologies for so many questions but your post hit on several of my Wesco desires!

      Yeah so I think @neph93 answered the toe and sole question well , I will add that the toe style really needs to be looked at with intention also. I ride motorcycles so the flat toe is more forgiving when shifting. He is right the Santa Rosa boot has the bump toe which is great looking but I do not ride much with these. I also bought these bad boys second hand and they were new. Previous owner I believed ordered his size but these are marked 8.5, I wear a 9.5 or 10 in most boots. I took a chance with measurements on these and it paid off. But I also believe that because of the bump toe it worked , if these would’ve been flat …😐.

      As for the wesco LTT , I got those just recently off wesco site, no defects but was on the seconds page.
      And absolutely great boot that again I scored on. They are breaking in nicely and are the perfect height for me
      8’ . The others are 10 and 6 and these are actually perfect. I do have the build sheet on these but it’s the olive roughout, jobmasters , I believe Vibram 100 sole, red stitching which I love , tan liner. Brass hardware.
      I wear a 9.5 in wesco but a 9 in the lofgren. The olive are 9.5e and fit perfect. I just ordered a pair on wesco engineer 9.5e also. It will have a flat toe or as they call it the mp.

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      • J-diddyJ
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        So this is my actual current line up on the engineer’s , I did warn you that I had a problem!!! 😝
        Also with a pair in que at wesco.

        They are all amazing in there own way . I just recently got rid of the black wesco in previous post because of a slight fit issue I had. They were great but I’m praying the new one will be perfect. Anyways just another comparison of toe choices amongst other options.

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        • illo59I
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          thinking about to eventually take a step up in my boot game as i found some nice ones in wescos factory seconds - what about the sizing? am i safe with "size 1 down from sneakers" or can i rock the same size as in red wings? also, is there much difference between the e and d width? i wear 9,5 d in redwings and wonder if 9e in the wescos could fit me… i'm sure some of you here have a lot more boot experience than a mostly sneaker wearing dude like me - thanks in advance!  🙂

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          • neph93N
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            One down from sneakers depends on the sneakers you wear and probably isn’t a good comparison.

            I’ve had Moc toe RW’s in 10.5D that fit ok (a little wide, a little long) and were the same size as my best fitting Wesco’s (10.5E) so that might be a better place to start.

            There is a of course a noticeable difference between D and E width but what width you need will also depend on which boot you are looking at. Jobmasters and standard Boss toes have a wider foot and higher toe box than Packers and the MP toe. Personally I like to go D in the former and E in the latter. Which boot had caught your attention?

            Overall, I’d say that if you like the boot and the price is right, a 9E Wesco should be close enough to a 9.5D RW that it is worth the risk. But that is how I think about these things.

            «Stevie Heighway on the wing!
            We had dreams, and songs to sing…»

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            • illo59I
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              thanks for the quick help @neph93 - very appreciated!

              i'm eyeing at some jobmasters  - so if i normally wear 9,5D in red wings (with some room in length and width, just like you)  i might have to pass on this one, considering the jobmasters are boots with more room and plus (as i just saw) double-E width in the 9,5…

              the price is a steal. and from what i read the "defects" factory seconds are often not even noticeable... but that's what i first thought, they might be pretty likely too big for me  😢

              When my time comes I want to be buried face down. That way whoever doesn’t like me can kiss my ass.

              -Red Forman

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              • neph93N
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                I think you will find that boot too wide. Of course there are things you can do (extra insole, thick socks) but they are imperfect solutions.

                «Stevie Heighway on the wing!
                We had dreams, and songs to sing…»

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                • illo59I
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                  @neph93:

                  I think you will find that boot too wide. Of course there are things you can do (extra insole, thick socks) but they are imperfect solutions.

                  exactly, not a fan of such "solutions", makes no sense to force anything just to own them, i prefer to wear them comfortable. i'll wait and and see. the right time for my wescos will come another day  😉 thank you for the help!

                  When my time comes I want to be buried face down. That way whoever doesn’t like me can kiss my ass.

                  -Red Forman

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                  • motojoboboM
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                    Thankyou to @neph93 and @J-diddy ! Good info guys. I'm leaning strongly towards an LTT, as similar as possible to yours. At this time this build will add more to my shoe options than an engineer would.

                    The journey is the objective.

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                    • J
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                      If this is any help,I’m an 8.5 in Converse and an 8.5 D in Wesco.

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                      • J-diddyJ
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                        @neph93:

                        One down from sneakers depends on the sneakers you wear and probably isn’t a good comparison.

                        I’ve had Moc toe RW’s in 10.5D that fit ok (a little wide, a little long) and were the same size as my best fitting Wesco’s (10.5E) so that might be a better place to start.

                        There is a of course a noticeable difference between D and E width but what width you need will also depend on which boot you are looking at. Jobmasters and standard Boss toes have a wider foot and higher toe box than Packers and the MP toe. Personally I like to go D in the former and E in the latter. Which boot had caught your attention?

                        Overall, I’d say that if you like the boot and the price is right, a 9E Wesco should be close enough to a 9.5D RW that it is worth the risk. But that is how I think about these things.

                        Good morning, once again I think @neph93 nailed it pretty close , he must have as much stock in wesco as I do…😁
                        I have always been curious to know the difference in width because I personally have not felt much of a difference with wescos D and E offering and with a lace to toe even more so because of the ability to tighten wherever you need. I measured mine and it looks like at the widest point it only a 1/8 different. I’ve also found that wesco run a bit more TTS than some other brands. Meaning I have not had to size down or up. The MP toe or flat toe is the one that I would go with E for sure. To answer your question on the EE , and assuming it’s another 1/8 making it 1/4 wider than D .... how much are you saving? I’ve found that the ‘defect ‘ wesco is better than some offerings from others that are full retail. And at a 9.5 size you will always be able to let them go to another, ( re coop) And as mentioned above a thin insole actually to me is preferred as I stand all day at work. It might be worth the gamble of saving hundreds. Anyways that is my two cents.

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                          • UnTuckedU
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                            Look at these gorgeous boots, posted on IG

                            In search of:
                            IHV-04, med.
                            IHSH-185, large
                            IHSH-186, large (khaki, and green)

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                            • neph93N
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                              That’s the new London tan domain leather. It’s nice. I fancy a pair of boss in it with roughout shafts.

                              «Stevie Heighway on the wing!
                              We had dreams, and songs to sing…»

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                              • neph93N
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                                @j-diddy not quite as much stock as you, but not far off. I have two pairs of custom Boss ordered through IH and a pair of JH. The custom Boss are 10.5D and 10.5E, the JH are 11D and a little big for me.

                                I need the E fitting in the MP toe for the instep, but I’ve also noticed that with the lighter leathers (burlap for example) they stretch more. I have a pair in the 7oz black oil tanned leather and while it softens, it doesn’t really stretch.

                                «Stevie Heighway on the wing!
                                We had dreams, and songs to sing…»

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                                  I'd love a pair of footies in that  😛

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                                  • Matty123M
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                                    I’d like to see what the roughout of that looks like.

                                    Maybe so. Maybe not

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                                    • UnTuckedU
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                                      I like that boot as is… Everything about it looks perfect to me (And I generally dislike Wescos.... #Blasphemy)

                                      In search of:
                                      IHV-04, med.
                                      IHSH-185, large
                                      IHSH-186, large (khaki, and green)

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                                      • Matty123M
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                                        Nonconformist. We can’t all be sheep. Atta Boy.

                                        Maybe so. Maybe not

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                                        • UnTuckedU
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                                          That pair would convert me

                                          In search of:
                                          IHV-04, med.
                                          IHSH-185, large
                                          IHSH-186, large (khaki, and green)

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                                          • neph93N
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                                            @UnTucked:

                                            That pair would convert me

                                            They're real good. Loving the all brown effect. It's what I'd build with the double mids and the #705 sole but having one pair with the #705 already and living where I live I'd have to drop it for reasons of practicality.

                                            «Stevie Heighway on the wing!
                                            We had dreams, and songs to sing…»

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