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    • Megatron1505M
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      The black boots and the oxfords are stunners…..eagerly awaiting my boots  😃

      Made in England, clothed in Japan, fed in America and drunk in Belgium !

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      • 4c4
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        The only reason I haven’t yet considered Wesco boots:

        Wesco is unique to many of the high-end brands in that they use steel shanks and I’ve always heard that steel shanks are not as nice as leather ones for most purposes because they are heavy, brittle, stiff, sometimes corrode, do not conform to the foot like leather, and are generally cheaper and less desirable than leather ones unless one demands very little flex in a boot which is a need for some boots such as mountaineering boots… I’ve had arguably the best handmade mountaineering boots in the word and they had a steel shank and I loved them, but they were nowhere near as comfortable as my boots with an leather shank. Also, when White’s uses Boss lasts (White’s doesn’t make a Boss last, Wesco makes a Boss last) on their boots they sell them for quite a bit less which is also concerning to me. (http://www.bakershoe.com/product/open-road-whites-boots)

        Can somebody please help convince me that these are not problems? Or is there a Wesco boot offered with an leather shank?

        Thanks

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        • CutlasshoundC
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          Bloody hell I want those oxfords….

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          I ain't got time to bleed.

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            I'm pretty sure that Alden uses a steel shank and they are comfy as hell. Also not sure why the last used would make the boot cheaper. Might be some confusion there. G can probably explain.

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            • SaschaVSS
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              Looki looki!!!!! soon, my dream boot!!!

              IHFFIH

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                Burlap and Black tie?

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                • SaschaVSS
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                  @superfuzz:

                  Burlap and Black tie?

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                  Yes sir!!!

                  IHFFIH

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                  • FurattoHeddoF
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                    Burgundy domain RO/smooth? Looking very lush! …

                    "Don't ever be sorry"

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                    • ChrisC
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                      @4c:

                      The only reason I haven’t yet considered Wesco boots:

                      Wesco is unique to many of the high-end brands in that they use steel shanks and I’ve always heard that steel shanks are not as nice as iron leather ones for most purposes because they are heavy, brittle, stiff, sometimes corrode, do not conform to the foot like leather, and are generally cheaper and less desirable than leather ones unless one demands very little flex in a boot which is a need for some boots such as mountaineering boots… I’ve had arguably the best handmade mountaineering boots in the word and they had a steel shank and I loved them, but they were nowhere near as comfortable as my boots with an iron leather shank. Also, when White’s uses Boss lasts (White’s doesn’t make a Boss last, Wesco makes a Boss last) on their boots they sell them for quite a bit less which is also concerning to me. (http://www.bakershoe.com/product/open-road-whites-boots)

                      Can somebody please help convince me that these are not problems? Or is there a Wesco boot offered with an iron leather shank?

                      Thanks

                      That doesn't even make sense.  What is an "iron leather" shank?  Most boots with a metal reinforced shanks use steel ones, because iron is heavier, more brittle and corrosion prone.

                      EDIT: Are you referring to this?
                      http://www.whitesboots.com/index.php?dispatch=pages.view&page_id=16

                      They're showing leather shanks, which are lighter and more flexible than metal ones.  The thickness is measured in "irons", which is an old-school leather measurement.

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                      • Megatron1505M
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                        ^ Knowledge dropped

                        Made in England, clothed in Japan, fed in America and drunk in Belgium !

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                          I've never heard that leather were better than steel shanks. In general I've always heard that White's and Wescos were similar in quality. I'd say take the plunge and find out!

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                          • 4c4
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                            @Chris:

                            That doesn't even make sense.  What is an "iron leather" shank?  Most boots with a metal reinforced shanks use steel ones, because iron is heavier, more brittle and corrosion prone.

                            EDIT: Are you referring to this?
                            http://www.whitesboots.com/index.php?dispatch=pages.view&page_id=16

                            They're showing leather shanks, which are lighter and more flexible than metal ones.  The thickness is measured in "irons", which is an old-school leather measurement.

                            It says “12-14 Iron Hard Leather Shank”… Thought that meant it was called Iron Leather….
                            Honest mistake (Honestly stupid :-[), but Will edit the post… Thank you for correcting it though.

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                              My black fire MP toe Boss boots

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                              • GilesG
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                                "OK face up to it - you're useless but generally pretty honest and straightforward . . . it's a rare combination of qualities that I have come to admire in you" - Geo 2011

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                                • tmgT
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                                  G, very classy! How do they compare to your two tone White's SJ's in terms of fit?

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                                  • GilesG
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                                    A million times better…..

                                    "OK face up to it - you're useless but generally pretty honest and straightforward . . . it's a rare combination of qualities that I have come to admire in you" - Geo 2011

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                                      @superfuzz:

                                      I've never heard that leather were better than steel shanks. In general I've always heard that White's and Wescos were similar in quality. I'd say take the plunge and find out!

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                                      The only time it's ever a factor that I've seen is with wild land firefighters. Steel shanks apparently have a tendency to heat up whereas leather doesn't have that problem. Aside from that, it's really up to preference as to which you prefer quality-wise (re: White's vs Wesco). For me, White's are comfortable for my flat feet with standard sizing; with Wesco's, I'd need to get properly sized/custom fitting to get it just right but since I've only owned factory seconds, I haven't had the opportunity. This means I have to buy inserts accordingly to compensate whereas my White's fit perfect out of the box. Your mileage may vary!

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                                        @aho you've had some pretty nice luck with those factory seconds!

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                                        • BluegrassB
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                                          A million times better…..

                                          G, do you do the same size in White's/Wesco?

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                                          • GilesG
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                                            Yep…..

                                            "OK face up to it - you're useless but generally pretty honest and straightforward . . . it's a rare combination of qualities that I have come to admire in you" - Geo 2011

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