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    • tatmantallT
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      I agree those collars are  :-*… Anything else just doesn't cut it for me now.

      "I know to you it may sound strange, but I wish it would rain…"- The Temptations

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      • seanoconoS
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        I don't know much about this topic. I don't own any TFH tees, and I don't even know what THC stands for – I just know the "higher" the % the better -- but even after only a couple posts, it's clear TFH is lucky to have Kyle represent them. He addressed this issue head-on, in a professional/respectful manner, and was eloquent and informative in his response.

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        • seanoconoS
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          Hmmm… Rave reviews on TFH tees, huh? Anyone know where to find IH XL equivalents? I have only found smaller sizes and haven't yet taken the Rakuten plunge.

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            Omega Man
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            Thanks Cold Summer for your explanation.
            One thing to take away, please ask TFH to make their Ts in bigger sizes for us folks in North America.  Love to get some, but many of them are limited to 42 inches in chest sizes.  And if they do, I don't think the shoulders need to be more than 21 inches imho.

            Seanocono, I think the closest you will get in a XL is size 46 (and unfortunately sold out in SE) in this:  http://www.selfedge.com/shop/index.php?main_page=product_info&cPath=68&products_id=901

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            • seanoconoS
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              Thanks, Omega Man. Unfortunately, even those would be a little too small in the chest, if they were available. I'm actually hoping the 46" chest of the latest IH XLs stretch a bit, which I'm sure they will. I'll find out later today.

              I definitely second TFH making some larger-sized Ts for us North Americans. I really dig all the native motifs.

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              • ChrisC
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                Sean, if you can find some of their "wide body" models, you might be able to get one that will work.  Those are sized like standard Flat Head tees, but are generally 1-2 inches wider in the body.  Good luck with your hunt.  Everyone should get at least one FH tee, they're fantastic.

                As far as this whole loopwheeled/not loopwheeled thing goes, it's all pretty irrelevant to me.  Several people with greater knowledge than I will ever have say that telling if a finished garment is loopwheeled or simply tube bodied and woven on a modern machine is impossible.  As further proof of this irrelevance, when Haraki started making the new 7.5 oz tees, he didn't bother telling Giles that they were loopwheeled- because it didn't matter to him.  If an obsessive perfectionist like Haraki-san doesn't care, then it can't be very important to the quality of the shirt.

                Bottom line is that FH tees are beautifully made, comfortable and of the highest quality.  If you're going to write off buying one because of what appears to be an honest translation error about a fundamentally inconsequential knitting technique, then I just feel sorry for you.

                (BTW, I like IH tees better, because I hate the neck on FH tees 😉 )

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                • seanoconoS
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                  Thanks, Chris.

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                    I do agree that if the most "trained" people (Kiya) can't tell loopwheeled tee vs not, it's probably not a big deal. Don't quote me on this, but I'm pretty sure that Self Edge sells the THC series at their stores.

                    But I will say that at SELA I held a flat head tee and an iron heart one, which we know is loopwheeled, and I was amazed because I instantly said out loud to the girlfriend that I thought the fabric on the IH was nicer.

                    Does that mean i prefer loopwheeled, or is the cotton just nicer? Not sure, but I have an iron heart one on the way and ill give my 2 cents on both when it comes, if anyone would like…

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                    • Cold SummerC
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                      I saw some size 44 tees here the other day, and the SE page suggests that a size 46 exists. I don't think TFH makes very many in these sizes, but as Chris mentioned the Regular Size models (40R, 42R, etc.) are wider. I'm sure that if you contact your nearest store and asked nicely, they could probably order some of these for you.

                      I think Chris is right, it doesn't seem like the whole loopwheel thing is quite as big a deal in Japan as it is on English denim forums. But I will re-state that Flat Head makes tees with many different types of fabrics - most of them loopwheeled.

                      The THC's main selling point is that they're made out of heavyweight, durable cotton with triple-stitched necks. If for some reason you don't like the necks or fabric on these, you can always try the Glory Park or Black Mint tees that might have the feel you're after. TFH makes so many different types of T-shirts that I'm sure just about anyone could find a fabric and details that they liked.

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                        every TFH tee I own (7) is better than every other tee I own now or have ever owned. (I don't presently own any IH loopwheel tees) loopwheel or not shit I don't know I have 4 thc 2 medium weight and 1 lightweight and they all just seem to get better with every wash

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                        • Sugar MountainS
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                          How about a picture of said tees to break up some of this text eh?  😉

                          New TFH pick-ups from Take5 and 2nd…

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                          • Finn666F
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                            love the one in the middle! great pruchases mate…

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                              Sweet looking Tees. Great buy.

                              In love with the black one.

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                              • ChrisC
                                Chris
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                                @Cold:

                                I saw some size 44 tees here the other day, and the SE page suggests that a size 46 exists.

                                Since I wear a 44, I can say that they are not super common, but you can find them with a bit of effort.  As for the 46 (I owned one, by the way), I've never seen that size anywhere but at Self Edge, so maybe Kiya did a special order.  I'm sure he'd be willing to give some additional info if asked politely.

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                                • Jordan23J
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                                  DC4 will get shirts in 46 and iirc the collabo (Flathead-Party) shirts were available in 46 too.

                                  Enjoy ya addiction!

                                  AE

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                                    Danny RnH
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                                    Great tees especially the RJB one

                                    Danny
                                    www.rivetandhide.com

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                                    • Sugar MountainS
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                                      Just for you Danny, I'll wear it when I visit the R&H pop-up!

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                                      • seanoconoS
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                                        @Jordan23:

                                        DC4 will get shirts in 46 and iirc the collabo (Flathead-Party) shirts were available in 46 too.

                                        Enjoy ya addiction!

                                        This is true, the Flathead Party shirts were made up to a 46. Unfortunately, I was slow on the draw with them, and they are gone (further evidence that there is strong demand for this size). It's too bad, they are really nice looking Ts.

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                                          twin
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                                          The flat Head BSP jeans out in the sun

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                                            davito
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                                            Superb stuff and awesome landscape maestro twin

                                            Cheers,
                                            David

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