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    • GraemeG
      Graeme
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      @steelworker I think that there are two issues here.

      The first is that the solutions to Global Warming tend to require government restrictions on behaviour. Those to the right of Attila the Hun consider any such impositions to be socialism. So I think that there's a cognitive bias towards decrying the research as being flawed.

      Funnily enough, none of these critics ever seem to have a scientific background. 😉

      The second is that significant changes in society tend to hurt the rich disproportionally, as new groups are likely to make money off it, whilst old groups lose it. So they've got an interest in maintaining the status quo, and moving to a low carbon economy is likely to shake things up.

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      • S
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        @Graeme:

        Whilst sitting in the waiting room at a recruitment agency earlier, I flicked through a copy of The Australian. It's one of the main broadsheets down here, and part of the Murdoch stable.

        PS all the papers here suck.

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        • GraemeG
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          So:

          • The papers and media suck.

          • Big business seems to blatantly dictate government policy.

          • The wildlife is lethal.

          • Everything is expensive.

          • The weather is too hot to wear heavy denim.

          • And I'm currently living in Hipster central!

          Remind me again, why did I move here?

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          • S
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            Good beer, 'friendly' women, many public holidays, slow work pace, relaxed culture, and good coffee?? ::)

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            • GilesG
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              And feckin outstanding fishing in The Northern Territories….

              "OK face up to it - you're useless but generally pretty honest and straightforward . . . it's a rare combination of qualities that I have come to admire in you" - Geo 2011

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              • GraemeG
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                Yes, but this is what the locals are like… :o

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                • steelworkerS
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                  @Graeme:

                  @steelworker I think that there are two issues here.

                  The first is that the solutions to Global Warming tend to require government restrictions on behaviour. Those to the right of Attila the Hun consider any such impositions to be socialism. So I think that there's a cognitive bias towards decrying the research as being flawed.

                  Funnily enough, none of these critics ever seem to have a scientific background. 😉

                  The second is that significant changes in society tend to hurt the rich disproportionally, as new groups are likely to make money off it, whilst old groups lose it. So they've got an interest in maintaining the status quo, and moving to a low carbon economy is likely to shake things up.

                  A thoughtful and reasoned opinion, Graeme. Damnit. 😉

                  Those are my principles, and if you don't like them…
                  Well, I have others.

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                  • steelworkerS
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                    @Graeme:

                    Yes, but this is what the locals are like… :o

                    On a positive note the beer must be stellar!
                              On a negative-that's the worst hangover ever.
                              Great doctors though!

                    Those are my principles, and if you don't like them…
                    Well, I have others.

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                    • GilesG
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                      This could also go into First World Problems.  I come back from 2 weeks away, super-excited to see the Hoegh Osaka beached out in the Solent where I swim.  I pop down today and the bastards have uprighted her and she is being towed to Southampton…..DAMN.

                      http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-hampshire-30933237

                      "OK face up to it - you're useless but generally pretty honest and straightforward . . . it's a rare combination of qualities that I have come to admire in you" - Geo 2011

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                      • J
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                        Adding to the climate change convo…I think anyone with half a brain could observe noticed changes to the Earthly climate. Most scientific papers I have seen confirm this as fact. My issue is where should governance fall in tackling the issue and/or is there an issue at all? I am completely in disagreement with most models on Anthropogenic Global Warming as they fail to address some key factors.

                        Namely that the climate has changed and continues to change on this ball of dirt, including periods where it has been MUCH warmer on a global scale (taking away merit of the utter doom scenarios). Secondly, most ignore data that shows we are observing similar changes throughout our solar system, hinting that the causation is much more likely solar in nature than our impact on the planet. The proposed solutions are also very broad in nature focusing largely on fines, taxes, and penalizing a naturally occurring element.

                        We certainly should focus on cleaning up the messes we've made, and air quality should be a major concern. However imposing sanctions on what is a basic building block to life on this planet is dangerous, particularly when we look at the track records of world leaders and how prone they are to abuse methods of taking from the people.

                        Bourbon: because living in Kentucky just makes you want to drink

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                        • mclaincauseyM
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                          @Graeme:

                          Yes, but this is what the locals are like… :o

                          Jesus Christ. Dude's from Darwin. Are you sure this isn't an Onion article?

                          Side-note, at the very least we are skirting dangerously close to prohibited territory in regards to political discussion in this thread.

                          Think it, be it.

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                          • J
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                            On a thread related note…the girl I'm seeing is already hinting at wanting to move in together. We've been seeing each other a few months, but not sure I'm up for a step like that yet. Why do they always have to louse up a good thing?

                            Bourbon: because living in Kentucky just makes you want to drink

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                            • spitfiredealerS
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                              people posting the same stuff in loads of different threads is starting to grind my gears!

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                              • SeulS
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                                1 day NY to Belgium
                                7 days (and counting) Belgian customs to… Belgian customs...

                                January 19, 2015 , 6:53 am
                                Customs Clearance

                                BELGIUM
                                Your item is being processed by customs in BELGIUM at 6:53 am on January 19, 2015.
                                January 16, 2015 , 5:23 pm
                                Customs Clearance

                                BELGIUM
                                January 16, 2015 , 5:23 pm
                                Processed Through Sort Facility
                                BELGIUM

                                January 16, 2015 , 8:59 am
                                Departed
                                Brussels, BELGIUM
                                January 15, 2015 , 6:09 pm
                                Departed
                                New York, UNITED STATES
                                January 15, 2015 , 10:23 am
                                Arrived
                                New York, UNITED STATES
                                January 15, 2015 , 7:46 am
                                Processed Through Sort Facility
                                ISC NEW YORK NY(USPS)
                                January 15, 2015 , 7:45 am
                                Arrived at Sort Facility
                                ISC NEW YORK NY(USPS)

                                January 13, 2015
                                Pre-Shipment Info Sent to USPS

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                                • den1mheadD
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                                  don't get me started on customs @Seul, they seem to work in a completely different time zone than the rest of the human race. I believe @501/IH can add to the customs woes with his horrific tales of his dealings with berlin customs. what is it that they do that takes them so long to confirm that the piece of IH clothing, or something similar, that they are inspecting, isn't concealing a 100 ton consignment of peruvian flake !!!!!

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                                  • 501IH5
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                                    Well yes, it's a topic that one better does abstain from getting me started on. Let me just put it like this here: they are my pet hate, it's a deep, profound, irreconcilable and oh so well-deserved hate !!!

                                    Keep your jeans on–-and let nothing come in between you and the denim !

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                                    • ChrisC
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                                      Ratebeer's rating system is illogical, inconsistent and overly complicated.  Perhaps they were drunk when they created it, because that's the only way it wouldn't seem retarded.

                                      But the ratings are right (I think) about Goose Island Halia; it's very nice.

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                                      • SeulS
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                                        ^No it's not.

                                        And BeerAdvocate is for douches  ::)

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                                        • GilesG
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                                          @Giles:

                                          This could also go into First World Problems.  I come back from 2 weeks away, super-excited to see the Hoegh Osaka beached out in the Solent where I swim.  I pop down today and the bastards have uprighted her and she is being towed to Southampton…..DAMN.

                                          http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-hampshire-30933237

                                          But here are a series of nice pics of the incident….

                                          http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-hampshire-30944098

                                          "OK face up to it - you're useless but generally pretty honest and straightforward . . . it's a rare combination of qualities that I have come to admire in you" - Geo 2011

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                                          • GraemeG
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                                            @Giles warned the shipping company to make sure the IH consignment was stowed on the centreline…

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