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    • GilesG
      Giles
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      Thank you @endo

      "OK face up to it - you're useless but generally pretty honest and straightforward . . . it's a rare combination of qualities that I have come to admire in you" - Geo 2011

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      • GilesG
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        I hate dogma, and it has no place here. Just because you strongly believe that you are right does not make you right.

        "OK face up to it - you're useless but generally pretty honest and straightforward . . . it's a rare combination of qualities that I have come to admire in you" - Geo 2011

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        • Walery SmirnoffW
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          This forum is exactly the kind of place where I don't get labeled just for being Russian.

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          • GoodtimeJohnnyG
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            @RocknRoll In with this 100%, my eye can't handle it

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              @NickD Hiut have two of the belt loops on the hips angled,

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              • AdamJA
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                @Cymro @NickD never really thought about it but now you mention it... I'm not having that! I wonder if it makes it easier for your belt?CleanShot 2026-08-26 at 14.22.58@2x.png

                The devil is in the detail..

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                  @Giles I can't see that I was being dogmatic.

                  To clarify my point then, in my opinion the two things are separate (linked, yes, but not inextricably) but to Endo's point I'll avoid either here.

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                    @Cymro I did have some Huit jeans so that's probably where I'm remembering it from.

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                    • GilesG
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                      @NickD said in Random Rants:

                      @Giles I can't see that I was being dogmatic.

                      To clarify my point then, in my opinion the two things are separate but to Endo's point I'll avoid either here.

                      My point was not directed at you at all.

                      My post was a more general-to-everyone-if-it-applies-to-you, quit the dogma.

                      "OK face up to it - you're useless but generally pretty honest and straightforward . . . it's a rare combination of qualities that I have come to admire in you" - Geo 2011

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                      • northsouthdenimguyN
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                        One of the things that really drew me to this forum in recent years was the lack of political discussion and the fact that most of us could just come here and talk about the things we actually have in common.

                        I do notice, though, that little political or ideological jabs still get thrown out from time to time from all sides, and that almost always invites somebody else to respond with their own opinion. Even if you stay out of it, it can still be annoying to read through.

                        I know it is hard to avoid completely, and I would suspect there are some members for whom this is really their only forum or social media presence, so getting into those things here and there probably just feels natural. But there are plenty of other places for political debate and personal opinions. This place is better when it is one of the few places we do not have to.

                        @selveldgesteps

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                        • AnesthetistA
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                          I am pretty sure my Stevensons have angled loops at the back and it can be a pain to get my belt through them. The look doesnt bother me as much as the extra trouble.

                          I’d have to go back and look, but I’m pretty sure that my first pair of IronHeart’s the DC 4001 had an offset loop for comfort.

                          IG: bluehandsslim

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                            @northsouthdenimguy I get that it's probably better to avoid politics/religion/ beliefs entirely, otherwise there will be responses (like mine, mea culpa) that react to that.

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                            • GilesG
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                              The middle back loop was angled on the DC4001 (and maybe of DC's). This was a historical nod back to when it was really difficult to bartack the belt loop on through the centre back seam because there were so many layers of cloth.

                              "OK face up to it - you're useless but generally pretty honest and straightforward . . . it's a rare combination of qualities that I have come to admire in you" - Geo 2011

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                              • WhiskeySandwichW
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                                I do apologize for airing personal opinions on my influences if it bothered anyone. My thing was just more to do with media consumption and what I direct my attention bandwidth toward. Similar to musical selection or film tastes. We all like what we like.
                                I can take a jab. I do like that we can all talk about our interests here without judgement. I don't really participate in any other social media besides this, and I wouldn't want to treat anyone here any different than I would in person.

                                And my opinion on crooked belt loops is that they look bad, but make sense if you want to reduce thick overlaps of fabric that can be a hot spot on the back of a motorcycle if your seat has contact there.

                                "The whole future lies in uncertainty: Live immediately."
                                -Seneca

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                                • louisboscoL
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                                  @Walery-Smirnoff except for your last name. do you like vodka? 😂 😂 😉 😉

                                  "Loyalty is a two way street. If i'm asking for it from you, then you're getting it from me."

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                                  • northsouthdenimguyN
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                                    I have tons of opinions too. I’m just trying to bite my tongue and save my long-form journalism for the really important stuff, like the IH handoff thread. thankfully some of you had some longer ones too, so I don’t seem like a complete psycho. 🤣

                                    But all in all, I understand where everybody’s coming from. I just think these conversations almost never end up in a good place. For what it’s worth, I’ve yet to see a forum that opens the door to politics, ideology, or people just going hog wild with their opinions where it doesn’t eventually become a problem or even if people are all on the same side, it just kind of dies out because who wants to talk about that crap all day?

                                    Oh shit I did it again. I’m going try to keep everything I respond to two sentences or less from here on out. But I’m not promising. 🤞

                                    @selveldgesteps

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                                    • GilesG
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                                      @northsouthdenimguy said in Random Rants:

                                      But I’m not promising.

                                      Good

                                      "OK face up to it - you're useless but generally pretty honest and straightforward . . . it's a rare combination of qualities that I have come to admire in you" - Geo 2011

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                                        @AdamJ said in Random Rants:

                                        @Cymro @NickD never really thought about it but now you mention it... I'm not having that! I wonder! if it makes it easier for your belt?CleanShot 2026-08-26 at 14.22.58@2x.png

                                        I can confirm that after extensive testing this evening, angled belt loops were no different than standard for the ease of belt fitting.

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                                        • RocknRollR
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                                          @Anesthetist said in Random Rants:

                                          I am pretty sure my Stevensons have angled loops at the back and it can be a pain to get my belt through them. The look doesnt bother me as much as the extra trouble.

                                          I’d have to go back and look, but I’m pretty sure that my first pair of IronHeart’s the DC 4001 had an offset loop for comfort.

                                          Interesting. I didn’t remember it ever featuring on IH.

                                          On the upside, the angled loops have saved me buying a few pairs of jeans over the years; things that I otherwise would have picked up. I guess that’s a sign of how spoilt for choice we are these days - it really is a golden era.

                                          I might have an unhealthy obsession with belt loop aesthetics….. I really love the heavily ridged ones that sone brands do. I’ve been loving wearing a pair of Strike Gold lately, featuring the most beautifully defined belt loop ridges.

                                          Sporadic visitor.

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                                          • GilesG
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                                            I found a pic of the DC4001, and the centre back belt loop is offset not angled, clearly H could not bring himself to angle it......

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                                            "OK face up to it - you're useless but generally pretty honest and straightforward . . . it's a rare combination of qualities that I have come to admire in you" - Geo 2011

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