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    Iron Heart Fall/Winter 2025 Collection Preview - Now Live

    We know you love IH, but where do you think we can improve?

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    • GilesG
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      For every single T-Shirt we sell in the West, I would conservatively estimate we sell 25 in Japan and Thailand, where they like them the length they are.  If we did increase the length by an inch or two, we'd probably destroy demand in Japan and Thailand but we'd probably only sell 2 or 3 times as many as we currently do in the West.  As a company we are not large enough to make multiple versions of the same T-shirt, so it ain't happening.  Sorry

      "OK face up to it - you're useless but generally pretty honest and straightforward . . . it's a rare combination of qualities that I have come to admire in you" - Geo 2011

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      • Jordan23J
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        Unterstanding!

        Enjoy ya addiction!

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        • JCMx800J
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          Those blank 2014 7.5oz tees are feckin perfect.

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            Great news for me  🙂

            @Giles:

            For every single T-Shirt we sell in the West, I would conservatively estimate we sell 25 in Japan and Thailand, where they like them the length they are.  If we did increase the length by an inch or two, we'd probably destroy demand in Japan and Thailand but we'd probably only sell 2 or 3 times as many as we currently do in the West.  As a company we are not large enough to make multiple versions of the same T-shirt, so it ain't happening.  Sorry

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              @Giles:

              For every single T-Shirt we sell in the West, I would conservatively estimate we sell 25 in Japan and Thailand, where they like them the length they are.  If we did increase the length by an inch or two, we'd probably destroy demand in Japan and Thailand but we'd probably only sell 2 or 3 times as many as we currently do in the West.  As a company we are not large enough to make multiple versions of the same T-shirt, so it ain't happening.  Sorry

              How about increasing the length of the sweatshirts then.  I can't imagine a large market for heavy sweatshirts in Thailand.

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              • GilesG
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                But there is in Japan…...

                "OK face up to it - you're useless but generally pretty honest and straightforward . . . it's a rare combination of qualities that I have come to admire in you" - Geo 2011

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                • ChapC
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                  My heigth is 185cm, quite average I think, from my point of view the length of both the IH T-Shirts and the Sweat Shirts/Hoodies is pretty perfect…

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                    @Chap:

                    My heigth is 185cm, quite average I think, from my point of view the length of both the IH T-Shirts and the Sweat Shirts/Hoodies is pretty perfect…

                    The fit is both dependent on your height and the size you wear.  If you are 185cm and wear an XL then you won't have any problems with the length.  But if you're 180cm and wear a M (like me) then the sweatshirts are a bit short.

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                    • neph93N
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                      I've weighed in with this point in this kind of discussion before, and I need to stop it because it's exhausting. God only knows how Giles must feel [emoji28]

                      IH are not in the business if individual tailoring. Some things fit some people well, others not. They are designed and cut the way they are, I assume according to Haraki-san's wishes and specs and with an eye on making something that works for as many people as possible.

                      There have been occasions when things have been altered. T-shirt length a few years ago, sleeve length on UHF's last year. I'm guessing in each case some people bought more of each item, but some people bought less.

                      The clothing retailers job is to hit a sweet spot pleasing as many as possible. But given the variety in body shapes and taste, there will always be some people whom measurements don't work for. It's a necessary compromise and if you loose out as a result (as I did with the UHF's) then that's life.

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                      • bryaneidins70B
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                        Having a memory like a goldfish, is it possible to put the 'Model No.' of the shirt on one of the inside labels?

                        'Fail we may…Sail we must'

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                        • GilesG
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                          No, sorry.  It is another process that will add cost.

                          "OK face up to it - you're useless but generally pretty honest and straightforward . . . it's a rare combination of qualities that I have come to admire in you" - Geo 2011

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                            @neph93:

                            I've weighed in with this point in this kind of discussion before, and I need to stop it because it's exhausting. God only knows how Giles must feel [emoji28]

                            IH are not in the business if individual tailoring. Some things fit some people well, others not. They are designed and cut the way they are, I assume according to Haraki-san's wishes and specs and with an eye on making something that works for as many people as possible.

                            There have been occasions when things have been altered. T-shirt length a few years ago, sleeve length on UHF's last year. I'm guessing in each case some people bought more of each item, but some people bought less.

                            The clothing retailers job is to hit a sweet spot pleasing as many as possible. But given the variety in body shapes and taste, there will always be some people whom measurements don't work for. It's a necessary compromise and if you loose out as a result (as I did with the UHF's) then that's life.

                            I agree with your thought whole-heartedly. It's nearly impossible to make everyone happy at the same time. You win some you lose some. At the end of the day, it's business so if you ain't happy with the products of a brand you have the freedom to do your own research and buy what suits your body type or your style best.  😎

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                            • BloodnThunderB
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                              Always think it's funny when people say, "why don't you make the (insert piece)" shorter, longer, narrower, wider so it fits ME.

                              Like others have said already, cuts and fits are all about appealing to the largest demographic you can.  I think we all respect the amount of R&D and years of experience IH has so it's probably best to assume, when it comes to sizing, they are seriously considering what type of person is most likely to buy the item and are cutting as such.

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                              • AnesthetistA
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                                @Giles:

                                No, sorry.  It is another process that will add cost.

                                A rarity?

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                                • David K.K. HansenD
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                                  I saw another thread in which Amazon payments was mentioned.  Has IHUK considered BitCoins as payment?  Seeing as they're becoming more mainstream, albeit stil niche payment option.

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                                  • GilesG
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                                    Considering it

                                    "OK face up to it - you're useless but generally pretty honest and straightforward . . . it's a rare combination of qualities that I have come to admire in you" - Geo 2011

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                                      Not sure if this has been mentioned, but I really wish IH hoodies would have a 2 way zipper. I love IH but don't think I can go back to one ways. Even some of Uniqlos have 2 way (albeit, shitty quality…)

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                                      • louisboscoL
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                                        ^ seconded, it makes a lot of sense especially if you wanna keep something zipped up while sitting down/ or riding a bike.

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                                        • ChrisC
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                                          Yup, I love the two way zipper for outerwear. I even went to the trouble of tracking one down once (found it on etsy!) so I could have a tailor retrofit my favorite hoodie.

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                                          • DstaufferD
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                                            ^ agree with the two way zipper consensus. It really is a game changer…

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