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    • JordanxbufferJ
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      @dave28:

      @Jordanxbuffer:

      @neph93:

      @Jordanxbuffer:

      The thigh measurements (according to the sizing charts) are far too small for me in the 710.

      Have you been able to try a pair on? They are slim but if you’re comparing IHUK measurements to BiG then that may be misleading as they employ different methods.

      I have not! BiG is the only American retailer that is allowed to carry them, right?

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      Have you considered the 510xx in 21oz instead of the 710xx 19oz.

      Probably one of my favourite cut and jeans out of about 30+ Japan jeans I have owned.

      I definitely have, but the size charts on Denimio and OD are pretty different. I’ll probably just ask them for the largest thigh and smallest waist in a size 35.

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      • neph93N
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        @Jordanxbuffer:

        I have not! BiG is the only American retailer that is allowed to carry them, right?

        I don’t know tbh but if you’re comparing your 888’s measured the IH way to BiG’s 710 measurements then it won’t be an accurate comparison.

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        • JordanxbufferJ
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          @neph93:

          @Jordanxbuffer:

          I have not! BiG is the only American retailer that is allowed to carry them, right?

          I don’t know tbh but if you’re comparing your 888’s measured the IH way to BiG’s 710 measurements then it won’t be an accurate comparison.

          That’s probably where I’m going wrong. I’m looking for that ~13.5” post-soak thigh measurements.

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            There are no accurate sizing charts available for Samurai, as far as I know.

            TBH I'd just holla the Denimio CS folks in their chat and ask them to take the measurements for you; they are quite accommodating in that respect.

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            • C
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              Anyone familiar with which Samurai cut would come closest to the 634?

              And any chance sizing… my IH-634 sz 33 fit perfectly, but measurement methods make the comparison super challenging!

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              • JDelageJ
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                @Jordanxbuffer:

                I’m looking for that ~13.5” post-soak thigh measurements.

                That's pretty extreme on a 34-35 waist. I like full cuts and the only pants I have experienced that are in this range are the Roy Peanuts & Memorial and the Tender 132. The SDA 101 is close too, but with a much lower front raise. There are more choices if willing to go down to 13" thighs…

                WRT Samurai, the S3000VX is the one I'm looking at right now...

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                • JordanxbufferJ
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                  @Jordanxbuffer:

                  I’m looking for that ~13.5” post-soak thigh measurements.

                  That's pretty extreme on a 34-35 waist. I like full cuts and the only pants I have experienced that are in this range are the Roy Peanuts & Memorial and the Tender 132. The SDA 101 is close too, but with a much lower front raise.

                  The only cut that has measurements close to what I want is the IH-888.

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                  • JDelageJ
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                    For the sake of sharing info, here are measurements for a pair of S500VX 17oz size 33 I just bought from the sales thread here:

                    • Waist 35
                    • Front rise 11 (that's the killer on those…)
                    • Back rise 15
                    • Thigh 12.8
                    • Knees 9.5
                    • Opening 8.5
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                    • JordanxbufferJ
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                      @JDelage:

                      For the sake of sharing info, here are measurements for a pair of S500VX 17oz size 33 I just bought from the sales thread here:

                      • Waist 35
                      • Front rise 11 (that's the killer on those…)
                      • Back rise 15
                      • Thigh 12.8
                      • Knees 9.5
                      • Opening 8.5

                      Damn.

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                      • JordanxbufferJ
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                        @JDelage:

                        @Jordanxbuffer:

                        I’m looking for that ~13.5” post-soak thigh measurements.

                        That's pretty extreme on a 34-35 waist. I like full cuts and the only pants I have experienced that are in this range are the Roy Peanuts & Memorial and the Tender 132. The SDA 101 is close too, but with a much lower front raise. There are more choices if willing to go down to 13" thighs…

                        WRT Samurai, the S3000VX is the one I'm looking at right now...

                        I wish I could go down, but my tree trunk legs won’t let me.

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                        • C
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                          @Jordanxbuffer:

                          I wish I could go down, but my tree trunk legs won’t let me.

                          I don't think there's much joy to be had with Samurai for you, unfortunately. Personally, I think their cuts work the best when you are slim and can size for the waist; if you need to size up to accommodate voluminous thighs, you'll end up with lots of unnecessary material around the waist and bell-bottom leg openings.

                          This a crass generalization, naturally, but if 888 works the best for you then you won't find anything remotely similar here.

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                          • JordanxbufferJ
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                            @Jordanxbuffer:

                            I wish I could go down, but my tree trunk legs won’t let me.

                            I don't think there's much joy to be had with Samurai for you, unfortunately. Personally, I think their cuts work the best when you are slim and can size for the waist; if you need to size up to accommodate voluminous thighs, you'll end up with lots of unnecessary material around the waist and bell-bottom leg openings.

                            This a crass generalization, naturally, but if 888 works the best for you then you won't find anything remotely similar here.

                            Thanks for the heads up! Their fabrics just look so beautiful!

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                              A tag 35 710xx will have 13+ thighs. I measure my used and soaked/washed tag 34 as 13 inch thigh the way I measure from watching IH way to measure.

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                              • ChrisC
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                                Samurai construction also requires a different mindset.  Not that it's bad, just that Samurai made the choice to use all cotton thread, which is considerably less durable than the poly cotton blend that IH uses.  As a result, seams begin to fray more quickly and you'll do more spot repairs.  If you don't mind, or even like, doing that, then great.  But if you don't, it can take a while to accept.

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                                  @Chris:

                                  Samurai construction also requires a different mindset.  Not that it's bad, just that Samurai made the choice to use all cotton thread, which is considerably less durable than the poly cotton blend that IH uses.  As a result, seams begin to fray more quickly and you'll do more spot repairs.  If you don't mind, or even like, doing that, then great.  But if you don't, it can take a while to accept.

                                  I have a buddy here locally that can darn and repair when necessary and then I send them over to Rain after a while. It’s sounding like I’ll just hold off for different 888 iterations.

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                                  • JDelageJ
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                                    I just ordered a pair of S3000VX. I'll post the measurements when I get them, but I already know they won't have the kind of tapper you're looking for. My thighs are slightly smaller than yours, but my calves are weirdly big…  It must be all that spinach...

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                                    • JordanxbufferJ
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                                      @JDelage:

                                      I just ordered a pair of S3000VX. I'll post the measurements when I get them, but I already know they won't have the kind of tapper you're looking for. My thighs are slightly smaller than yours, but my calves are weirdly big…  It must be all that spinach...

                                      Haha. I’m not super opposed to a straight cut because of how I cuff my jeans. Friggin’ spinach. I have large calves, too. I blame the 560lb squats.

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                                      • JCMx800J
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                                        Read the whole thread again and needed some 710xx in my life…

                                        Les Paul -> ProCo Rat -> Super HardOn -> JCM800 Low Input
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                                        • JDelageJ
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                                          Haha. I’m not super opposed to a straight cut because of how I cuff my jeans. Friggin’ spinach. I have large calves, too. I blame the 560lb squats.

                                          That would do it. Just got over 300lbs for reps myself. One plate at a time… I shipped the pants to be hemmed. Will post measurements when I get them back.

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                                          • JordanxbufferJ
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                                            Haha. I’m not super opposed to a straight cut because of how I cuff my jeans. Friggin’ spinach. I have large calves, too. I blame the 560lb squats.

                                            That would do it. Just got over 300lbs for reps myself. One plate at a time… I shipped the pants to be hemmed. Will post measurements when I get them back.

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