SEXIH25 = Self Edge x Iron Heart 19oz Denim Jeans
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@dwils think slubby with slight stretch. Very comfy right out of the gate. Not sure if the overdye changes the feel compared to the normal indigo denim cause i only have the overdye version to speak of. But its obviously not the tight weave feel of the 14oz normal IH jeans. I would consider buying the indigo version too, its just i have lots of other things ahead in the list haha.
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Well I had been deliberating for months and finally took the plunge as it was the last pair left in 34”. I usually take a 32” in 777 but the Berkeleys I took a 33. Kiya said the waist shrunk massively on the OD pairs hence the size. Was nervous about Self Edges measuring but after a lot of research when they arrived this morning my deductions were spot on! 1/2” smaller in the waist and thigh compared to measurements IH way. These jeans are the best fitting pair I have. The cut is a dream, just the right amount of taper, rise and room in top block for me and the material is sublime. Super comfy from the off. Cannot recommend them highly enough. Love the deep pockets!

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I'm pretty good at math, but this SE vs IH measurement process chatter has me all twisted. Here's what I'm hoping someone can tell me - if SE says the waist is 38.5" in the 633, what does that translate to if IH was to measure the same pair? A larger measurement? By how much?
Next question - for the thigh and knee - same sort of deal? IH would be a larger measurement?
Appreciate the assist!
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@MTpockets. I can tell you with certainty that the thigh will be larger with IH measurement. Just get a pair of your own jeans and measure both ways and you will see the difference. I use to remember but not anymore the waist difference..
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@MTpockets I just grabbed a pair and measured both ways and the IH measurement is .5" larger laid flat. These were IH 633OD 18oz 38s and they were 19" waist using the SE method and 19.5" (maybe a touch under) using the IH method. So doubled it'd be closer to 1 inch larger, actually. That's what I found. This aligns with what some others have been saying and what @Gavin666 seems to have found in his as well.
I'd also recommend looking both up and comparing to what you have at home - that's what I'm doing before I go for the indigos and it's tell me I can go with the 36

@Gavin666 they look great BTW!
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@MTpockets. I think this denim is sanforized and washed so I don't think you will get much shrinkage. You will definitely get some stretching.
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@MTpockets basically if SE was it measures 17” IH way will be c17.5”. If SE thigh is 12” then thigh IH way will be c12.5”
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@Gavin666 we have the same pair! I love the copper rivets popping! And so nice to wear!
