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    Iron Heart Fall/Winter 2025 Live Reveal - Thursday 12th of June at 1700BST

    Hard Drinkers, Lets Drink Hard (Spirits, Liquors and Cocktails)

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    • Max PowerM
      Max Power
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      Thank you! Luckily I still have a Mortlach of the Flora & Fauna Series before it went insanely expensive. I always loved the Distillery and Diageo seems to give it the credit it deserves (and push the Price even more).

      The Thing with Ardbeg (and also Octomore / Bruichladdich) - they benefit from the Peat trend and it's easy to think they put more strength in Marketing and limited ageless bottlings, that sell for high Prices to collectors, instead of focussing on doing reasonably priced middle aged Standard bottlings. I'll give it a try, if a certain Transaction takes place today.

      @elclintor:

      > I don't care what people say.. The Max Power way is the right way…

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      • ddtrashD
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        Max, agree with you fully.  I have benefitted from buying recent limited Ardbeg releases, Alligator, Galileo, Ardbog, Rollercoaster etc etc.  I drink one bottle myself ( purely for scientific purposes of course! ), keep the remaining bottles for a couple of years before selling them on at a profit.  Working like this helps subsidise the cost of the bottle I open and drink. Slainte!

        There is no 'I' in team …............ however there are five in 'individual brilliance'.

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        • mclaincauseyM
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          Trends of late are all about extremes. Extreme bitterness or sourness in beer,  extreme peat in Scotch… I enjoy it but that kind of one dimensionality flattens out subtlety for sure.

          Think it, be it.

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          • Max PowerM
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            Fully agree. I haven't tasted an Octomore or Ardbeg Supernova yet, but  as I prefer the 18 YO Laphroaig for its complexity over the young, heavily peated bottlings, I doubt I would like them.

            I still haven't gone to collecting and reselling bottles, as I think they're meant to be drunk and not bought for the shelf or to be resold. Hoever, I missed some good bargains because of that (just look at how expensive the old Macallans have become, 18 YO Talisker, Highland Park etc.). I wonder wether we'll ever going to see the benefits of the increasing production of the last years or wether new markets absorb all of it. It just sucks to know what good whiskies are out there and not being able (or willing) to spent that much on those bottles.

            End of rant, I think I'm gonna get my Ardbeg now 😛

            @elclintor:

            > I don't care what people say.. The Max Power way is the right way…

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            • J
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              Also acquired more of this, which has quickly become a favorite

              Bourbon: because living in Kentucky just makes you want to drink

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              • SeulS
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                I'm in need of a good bottle of bourbon… I'll go by whatever you recommend, jdl... And then I'll see whether I can find it... Bourbon sure isn't popular here...  😞

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                • J
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                  What are you looking for in a bourbon Eli? Do you want a sweeter mash? Something a bit on the dry side? Top of the line quality?

                  Bourbon: because living in Kentucky just makes you want to drink

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                  • S
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                    I don't have experience with Europe's selection, but in Mexico there were only three or four bourbon's widely available. Of those, my faves were Bulleit, and Woodford Reserve.

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                    • Megatron1505M
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                      Bulleit is good, not tried Woodford.

                      Made in England, clothed in Japan, fed in America and drunk in Belgium !

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                      • mclaincauseyM
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                        Bulleit and all the other MGP made whiskeys gross me out. I really prefer something from an authentic operation. Doesn't have to be a 300 year old Kentucky distillery using on premise spring water but a factory distiller making stuff for a label chafes my sensibilities.

                        Think it, be it.

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                        • Megatron1505M
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                          Hands up who's surprised that Mac likes something a little more…..esoteric  😉

                          Made in England, clothed in Japan, fed in America and drunk in Belgium !

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                          • SeulS
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                            I'm with him though - would like something real (for lack of better vocabulary)…

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                            • Megatron1505M
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                              Yeh, I'm not necessarily disagreeing either, more a comment based on knowing that Mac is a man of very exacting tastes.

                              Bulleit is a fine drinking bourbon, but if you want something artisanal then it is outside of my knowledge or remit, I suggest asking @seawolf , I seem to recall that his knowledge in this field is extensive.

                              Made in England, clothed in Japan, fed in America and drunk in Belgium !

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                              • mclaincauseyM
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                                I don't dislike Bulleit, if I'm being honest, its supply chain just puts me off from recommending it or ordering it if I see something more authentic. In terms of the recipes they use, they're legit, the product itself is solid.

                                I bet you could find Old Granddad (maybe even 114), since it's owned by Jim Beam and thus by Suntory. I really like high rye bourbons, and it may be a good gateway into ryes for you if you find the spicy character of rye in your mash appealing.

                                Think it, be it.

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                                • J
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                                  Bulleit isn't too bad, Jefferson very small batch is good,  Woodford is ok as is Turkey Rare Breed. I have gotten more into craft distilled of late, which you'd have trouble tracking

                                  Bourbon: because living in Kentucky just makes you want to drink

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                                  • seawolfS
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                                    @Seul:

                                    I'm in need of a good bottle of bourbon… I'll go by whatever you recommend, jdl... And then I'll see whether I can find it... Bourbon sure isn't popular here...  😞

                                    My favorite bottles:

                                    The best bang for your buck: Buffalo Trace
                                    The best all around and reasonably priced high end bottle : Blanton's
                                    The most interesting I've had lately: Angel's Envy
                                    Honorable mention: Elmer T. Lee and Four Roses single barrel

                                    Tell you what Eli, take a picture of your local selection, and I'll be happy to help you choose a bottle.

                                    “Good design is actually a lot harder to notice than poor design, in part because good designs fit our needs so well that the design is invisible” - Don Norman

                                    @zeebeeleather

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                                    • mclaincauseyM
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                                      Rare Breed is excellent and likely easy to find. I should note Old Grand Dad is very affordable for how good it is.

                                      I think I've mentioned a distiller around the corner from me, when life settles down, if there's a safe, legal way to make an exchange (for beer) I would be open to that @Seul . I could of course send something from Kentucky instead or in addition to local craft spirits.

                                      Think it, be it.

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                                      • seawolfS
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                                        I've seen buffalo trace in the UK and in Japan. Also, I've seen (and purchased) Blanton's in Japan so I know it's out there. You can't go wrong with either. Fwiw, Maker's Mark is pretty solid and widely available. I buy it because it's a basic, pretty good bourbon, and it's reasonably priced to keep on hand at all times. Great for mixing for sure. I wouldn't dare mix Blanton's in a cocktail. It's too good on its own.

                                        “Good design is actually a lot harder to notice than poor design, in part because good designs fit our needs so well that the design is invisible” - Don Norman

                                        @zeebeeleather

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                                        • mclaincauseyM
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                                          Agreed, Buffalo Trace is one of the great widely available value brands. That distillery in general is amazing, their antique collection is really stupendous if you can find yourself some.

                                          Think it, be it.

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                                          • SeulS
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                                            Thanks lads. (Thads.) I'll have a look around.

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