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    • Paul9221P
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      Is there a reason most of IH denim has buttons over zippers?  Cost?  Difficulty?  Historical accuracy?

      I've gotten used to it so I don't mind either way. Just curious.

      Blanket-line all the things!!!

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      • gaseousclayG
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        @Paul9221:

        Is there a reason most of IH denim has buttons over zippers?  Cost?  Difficulty?  Historical accuracy?

        I've gotten used to it so I don't mind either way. Just curious.

        I would assume historical accuracy. I prefer buttons on my denim

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        IHSH-19

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        • DionD
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          Iron Heart is all about functionality and buttons allow for more flexibility to achieve a desired fit on bottoms. While I loved the chunky Talon zipper on my old 707 chinos, buttons are still the way to go when it comes to denim.

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          • Filthy2123ozjunkieF
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            @Dion:

            Iron Heart is all about functionality and buttons allow for more flexibility to achieve a desired fit on bottoms. While I loved the chunky Talon zipper on my old 707 chinos, buttons are still the way to go when it comes to denim.

            this is why I said relaxed fit. And there's like 300 other different pairs to choose from that have buttons already. 👍

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            • cityofdelusionC
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              @Filthy:

              @Dion:

              Iron Heart is all about functionality and buttons allow for more flexibility to achieve a desired fit on bottoms. While I loved the chunky Talon zipper on my old 707 chinos, buttons are still the way to go when it comes to denim.

              this is why I said relaxed fit. And there's like 300 other different pairs to choose from that have buttons already. 👍

              To be exact, 76 different pairs (denim or non-denim) with buttons and 11 pairs with zippers to choose from 😃 If the website's filtering function is accurate, that is.

              And amongst the ones that do have a zipper, either the thigh width or the front rise is too small for me.

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              • neph93N
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                @Paul9221:

                Is there a reason most of IH denim has buttons over zippers?  Cost?  Difficulty?  Historical accuracy?

                There are probably a few reasons but the only one that really matters is that Haraki-san wants it that way.

                Otherwise I’d surmise that Levi’s having been the main design blueprint for most Japanese brands, and Levi’s being traditionally a button fly brand is a major factor.

                Historical accuracy, for its own sake, is of little importance to Iron Heart in general, when compared to RMC amongst others.

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                Are the same that burn crosses”

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                • MastersOfDeathM
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                  @Dion:

                  buttons allow for more flexibility to achieve a desired fit on bottoms.

                  I'm probably missing something but I don't understand this…

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                  • H
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                    zippers always manage to come partially undone for me. Even the ones that fold down and lock seem to unzip halfway depending how I'm sitting. I love the convenience of zips but buttons stay buttoned for me, so I prefer them.

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                    • gaseousclayG
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                      I also like the button fades on denim, which isn't something you get with zippers

                      WTB:
                      IHSH-129 size L (blue)
                      IHSH-19

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                      • neph93N
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                        @gaseousclay:

                        I also like the button fades on denim, which isn't something you get with zippers

                        ^ word

                        “Some of those that work forces
                        Are the same that burn crosses”

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                        • Paul9221P
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                          @gaseousclay:

                          I also like the button fades on denim, which isn't something you get with zippers

                          More fade potential, that sounds right.

                          Blanket-line all the things!!!

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                          • Filthy2123ozjunkieF
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                            @Hematoma:

                            zippers always manage to come partially undone for me. Even the ones that fold down and lock seem to unzip halfway depending how I'm sitting. I love the convenience of zips but buttons stay buttoned for me, so I prefer them.

                            The zipper never came open on it's own on my 822 double knee engineers or my overalls. I'd still be wearing those now if the thighs weren't so slim on them. I would have gotten a bigger size of those but the waist is way too big then.

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                            • Paul9221P
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                              Same. I wear my double knee loggers almost every day (they're the equivalent of sweat pants for me) and have never had issues with the zipper.

                              Blanket-line all the things!!!

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                                @Filthy:

                                @Hematoma:

                                zippers always manage to come partially undone for me. Even the ones that fold down and lock seem to unzip halfway depending how I'm sitting. I love the convenience of zips but buttons stay buttoned for me, so I prefer them.

                                The zipper never came open on it's own on my 822 double knee engineers or my overalls. I'd still be wearing those now if the thighs weren't so slim on them. I would have gotten a bigger size of those but the waist is way too big then.

                                To be fair, my comment had to do with non-IH jeans, but the brands were definitely reputable.

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                                • jordanscollectedJ
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                                  @Giles I tried to scroll back but I got lost In other peoples reverse conversations and gave up. I recall seeing a photo of a sketchbook a couple months back that included a short sleeve CPO (green?). I would absolutely slam dunk one of those in my cart with rim shaking authority.

                                  Is this a real future product? Any more info if so? Thanks for all you do on here, I can’t believe you take time away from your day job to please us forum fella’s and fell-ettes.

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                                  • neph93N
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                                    @jordanscollected:

                                    Is this a real future product?

                                    Those pictures generally come from Haraki-san’s sketchbook/iPad. He posts them on IG and they appear to be advanced stage design work. I say advanced stage because by far and away most of the things we see there become real the following season. So that bodes well for your short sleeved CPO.

                                    I notice that IH will be doing sneak previews of their SS20 collection (that I assume that shirt is a part of), in Berlin and NYC shortly. Perhaps we’ll see more then.

                                    “Some of those that work forces
                                    Are the same that burn crosses”

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                                    • DionD
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                                      I think you meant this. It was in a different thread and I assume we will see H's artworks come to life in the future as neph stated.

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                                      • jordanscollectedJ
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                                        @neph93 @Dion thanks guys that’s what I was looking for. Now I wait and keep hustling!

                                        world tours:
                                        888 Fat guy chocolate WT
                                        Mad Red x2
                                        Wabidashery

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                                          I haven't seen IH make chore coats really, but what about a chore coat in the new lightweight black SBG denim? maybe something similar to Stevenson's Heartland jacket. The curved pockets on these really make it stand out against other chore coats.

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                                          • Paul9221P
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                                            IIRC, chore coats never sold very well. I would love one, especially a blanket-lined one like the IH-528.

                                            Blanket-line all the things!!!

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