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    • bagley920B
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      Will you accept American Express now or no?

      If I am not I, who will be? -Henry David Thoreau

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      • GilesG
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        Currently you can use American Express if you check out with PayPal, choose PayPal and then choose to pay with a credit card.  I am working with eWAY to get Amex accepted as a standard credit card transaction….

        "OK face up to it - you're useless but generally pretty honest and straightforward . . . it's a rare combination of qualities that I have come to admire in you" - Geo 2011

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        • bagley920B
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          @Giles:

          Currently you can use American Express if you check out with PayPal, choose PayPal and then choose to pay with a credit card.  I am working with eWAY to get Amex accepted as a standard credit card transaction….

          Good to know. Hadn't tried that.

          If I am not I, who will be? -Henry David Thoreau

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          • MattM
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            Will this affect us international customers?  I get all kinds of hassle when I try to use my Visa, it takes 2 phone calls and 3 emails just to get the order accepted.

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            • GilesG
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              That is because your credit card company places an international restriction on your card.  Much as I would dearly like to help, there is nothing I can do about it, all I can suggest is you ask them to permanently lift the restriction.

              For some reason this arbitrary placing of a restriction on how you use your own money is far more prevalent in the US than any other country I deal with.

              "OK face up to it - you're useless but generally pretty honest and straightforward . . . it's a rare combination of qualities that I have come to admire in you" - Geo 2011

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              • bagley920B
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                Amex is the only card I have that does this. And they only called me the first time I make a purchase.

                If I am not I, who will be? -Henry David Thoreau

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                • GilesG
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                  The restrictions are applied differently by different credit card companies on different credit card holders….

                  "OK face up to it - you're useless but generally pretty honest and straightforward . . . it's a rare combination of qualities that I have come to admire in you" - Geo 2011

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                  • 501IH5
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                    I have the misfortune to work in the field and deal with all manner of credit card issues and outright problems. It is 100% true: hurdles for perfectly legitimate transactions depend on the type of card, and the processing firm that is used by the customer's (as well as the one used by the dealer's) side. There are algorhythms to prevent fraud, and with the company I deal with (if anyone is particularly interested, I'll disclose names in PMs), transactions in the US and certain online purchases -i.e. with Apple or Itunes-  never fail to trigger a blockage. It's really annoying both for the customer and someone on the sorting end like myself, dealing with very unhappy people and totally unnecessary problems.

                    My recommendation: if you keep experiencing problems, change the card, use a different provider. Not only will it make life easier, but it will also be the only way for those imbecile companies to do something about their security measures.

                    Keep your jeans on–-and let nothing come in between you and the denim !

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                    • MattM
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                      @Giles:

                      For some reason this arbitrary placing of a restriction on how you use your own money is far more prevalent in the US than any other country I deal with.

                      It's because we are in Terror Alert Orange and the government needs to make sure we aren't buying heavy weight denim to place inside of our improvised explosive devices.

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                      • 501IH5
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                        This begs the question, Matt, what on earth will occur should it change to "Alert Red" once again….I shudder at the mere thought!  :o

                        Keep your jeans on–-and let nothing come in between you and the denim !

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                        • GilesG
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                          501/IH - Thanks for the clarification, that is very useful…Is there anything that I can do my end to make it better for the customer?  This seriously is my biggest headache.  Legit customer, with money, good credit rating and a desire to purchase, having hurdles placed in their way - I hate it.....

                          "OK face up to it - you're useless but generally pretty honest and straightforward . . . it's a rare combination of qualities that I have come to admire in you" - Geo 2011

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                          • 501IH5
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                            Giles, no, nothing apart from observing how it works, and enquiring in cases of "issues" about the exact reasons and backgrounds. Chances are then, from my experience, that at first you will be given some soothing standard replies, but if you keep nagging them and once get lucky with the person you speak to, someone will disclose at least some of the real conditions and put you wiser.
                            If this new provider is good, you will have few, if any problems.
                            If the opposite is the case, in the end only the change to a different one will probably be a real solution.

                            Keep your jeans on–-and let nothing come in between you and the denim !

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                              But I am convinced that the majority of problems I am having with US cards is that the customers credit card company is imposing the ban.  Typically when it happens, I will contact the customer and tell them to get the ban lifted.  Once they do this, then they can make the purchase. It's nothing to do my credit card processor (is it?).

                              "OK face up to it - you're useless but generally pretty honest and straightforward . . . it's a rare combination of qualities that I have come to admire in you" - Geo 2011

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                              • bagley920B
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                                Nope, they called me, I said yes it's me, they said try again, and it worked. All they are trying to do is make sure someone halfway across the world isn't using your card.

                                If I am not I, who will be? -Henry David Thoreau

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                                  @Giles:

                                  But I am convinced that the majority of problems I am having with US cards is that the customers credit card company is imposing the ban.  Typically when it happens, I will contact the customer and tell them to get the ban lifted.  Once they do this, then they can make the purchase. It's nothing to do my credit card processor (is it?).

                                  I am pretty sure as 501/IH stated that it has to do with the algorithms that the CC companies implement. Also, depending on the CC users tendencies, travel outside the US, credit limit, etc I think that the ban can vary. But what the hell do I know.

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                                    If I were getting constant restrictions and hassles for these purchases as a customer I would call my cc company and threaten to close my acct if they didn't stop, especially for repeat purchases with the same retailer.

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                                    • GilesG
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                                      I have some customers who have to call their CC company every time they want to make a purchase.  That is neanderthal….

                                      "OK face up to it - you're useless but generally pretty honest and straightforward . . . it's a rare combination of qualities that I have come to admire in you" - Geo 2011

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                                        Yes that is ridiculous, I as a customer would threaten to take my business elsewhere (to a new cc company) and would follow through if the practice didn't stop. Reward businesses that do things right, not those that do things wrong.

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                                        • 501IH5
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                                          Strongly agree with jacoavlu. I often wish more customers that I serve in my job were behaving like this (though obviously I can't tell them that…), it's the only language corporations understand.

                                          Giles and Lando: it is so, the probs usually arise on the customer processing end. In shop purchases, it is also often the cashiers who f*** up, they are simply too ignorant or lazy to bother with a proper verification (i.e. calling THEIR service provider and checking the customers ID) and then the card often gets blocked.

                                          But this obviously does not apply to an online shop.

                                          So I strongly second what has been said here before: complain if your card does not work when it should, give them a chance to sort it, but if they repeatedly fail, take your business elsewhere.

                                          Keep your jeans on–-and let nothing come in between you and the denim !

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                                          • GilesG
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                                            Shoque is coding a piece of intervention code.  When we get a suspected "We're denying transaction this because we don't like you buying outside of your home country, you unpatriotic bastard" error message from a purchasers credit card company, we will put the following up on the screen:

                                            "We are sorry that your credit card transaction failed, unfortunately this is completely beyond our control.  The most likely cause, if you are outside the UK, is that your card is not approved for international payments and you will need to contact your credit card provider to get this changed."

                                            It is not a perfect solution, but better than we had…..

                                            "OK face up to it - you're useless but generally pretty honest and straightforward . . . it's a rare combination of qualities that I have come to admire in you" - Geo 2011

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