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    Overdying - Overdone or All Day?!

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      LandoCal126 0
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      @madmonday:

      i liked the black & blues, but actually settled on a pair of Left Field NYC Cone White Oak Indigo Selvedge Duck Chinos.  I got a pair of Rogue Territory Dbl indigo trousers & they are really enough on the OD front for me (as far as trousers go).

      od should mean over dyed, but is instead becoming overdone.  of course just the way i see it & of course i don't make-up the entire market so you should be safe with OD all you fans of OD

      @J-IV:

      @madmonday:

      od should mean over dyed, but is instead becoming overdone.

      How so, Mister MadMonday?

      @madmonday:

      look out in the world & you see indigo baths have become very popular.

      jcrew, roy, rogue territory,unionmade indigo, & i could be missing some brands, but those are the ones that come to mind (without even mentioning Iron Heart)

      @J-IV:

      MadMonday; Oh I see what you mean now. I thought you were talking exclusively just IH items. I, myself, like IH's OD. I can't say much for the other brands out there because I'm not too familiar with them.

      @madmonday:

      i like the od as well, but i liked it more when it wasn't as common.  i'm just an elitist that doesn't want everyone to have access to a dope product  😞

      true story, only slightly joking
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      @J-IV:

      I feel you. I thought IH was the only company doing it because of how "stubborn" the company is and it would make sense for a dye that doesn't fade so easily. But if everyone else is doing, then fcuk.. Haha

      @Seul:

      @madmonday:

      od should mean over dyed, but is instead becoming overdone.

      Backed. And not just that, but imo standard indigo jeans fade much nicer…

      @Max:

      Quote from MM:  "i'm just an elitist that doesn't want everyone to have access to a dope product "

      ^TBH, I never heard of od outside of IH and Roy products. But on these the price alone makes sure that not "everyone" has access to it. If that makes you feel better 😉

      @madmonday:

      nope, not really, but i think the fascination with OD in general is akin to the way alot of things spread & grow.  the same can be said about raw denim as well as flannel and any other trend in any section of the market.

      just look at the amount of folks that now make CPO style shirts with side pockets 😶

      @thewickett:

      @madmonday:

      od should mean over dyed, but is instead becoming overdone.  of course just the way i see it & of course i don't make-up the entire market so you should be safe with OD all you fans of OD

      maybe I've missed the definition of overdye at some point along the way but.. I'm pretty sure overdye is essentially garment dyeing something that has already been dyed. 'Double Indigo' trousers and those left field chinos use blue warp/weft dyed yarns - meaning the dyeing process occurs long before the garment is made. (AKA not overdyed 🙂 )

      That being said, there are some companies out these offering OD products (In almost every case I've seen, indigo warp/naturalish weft jeans with a black fugitive pigment) just like IH does. So in essence, yes, it is still a bit overdone but I like to think not every black fugitive pigment dye is the same - I'm sure the recipe can vary in creating such a dye. IH's so called recipe for their black fugitive pigment die is different from everybody elses. The distinction i make is that while somebody may be doing an OD jeans they aren't doing a true IH OD jean.

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      • DougNgD
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        I have two pairs of overdyed, 634SB and SEXIH07BK

        I'm keeping them as part of my collection, but honestly, they never see any wear. I think I can count the number of times I've worn them combined on my fingers

        Just not my thing

        I know violence is not the answer, I got it wrong on purpose

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        • thomasnunnallyT
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          Agree with you Doug.  There is just something about the look of them after many wears that does not impress me.  Regardless, I feel obligated to give it a shot at some point.

          Out with the new! In with the old!

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          • J
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            "overdye" seems to mean a lot of things
            there's indigo dipped like the forum tees or ihsh-43
            I believe the roy indigo ducks would be similar
            and then there's the black overdyed jeans like 634s-b, sexih07bk, etc
            I think the ihsh-22od flannels were done this way as well as the 27bk
            which is entirely different and happens with this:

            @jacoavlu:

            kiya posted a pic of the machine way back when on twitter
            http://twitpic.com/382gw6
            link doesn't seem to be working now, but there it is anyway

            I can't get the image to come up here at work but maybe someone can actually post the pic of the machine here

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              LandoCal126 0
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              @jacoavlu:

              I can't get the image to come up here at work but maybe someone can actually post the pic of the machine here

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              • J-IVJ
                J-IV
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                What I know for sure and will defend till the end is IH should continuing doing the OD process.

                As Seul said, the standard indigo fades looks great, but I feel the OD is still fairly new when it comes to the outcome after a good amount of wear time. I'm pretty much curious on how they'll look as their color is quite deceiving.

                Black? Dark indigo? Grey? Let's find out.

                I'm as ugly as you

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                • ronaldlshR
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                  I find overdyed denim an extra twist to make things interesting.. And everyone should have at least one in their wardrobe.. Just my opinion..

                  THE RAW WAR

                  @ronaldlsh:

                  > Just going to keep wearing IH.

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                  • derivative666D
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                    I love 634s-b I think they are an essential pc.

                    "honorable mention to the bearded giant aka derivative666 for being a stand up dude & not changing with the seasons since i've been around these parts" Monday

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                    • ronaldlshR
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                      @derivative666:

                      I love 634s-b I think they are an essential pc.

                      I see a similarity in our taste haha.

                      THE RAW WAR

                      @ronaldlsh:

                      > Just going to keep wearing IH.

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                      • derivative666D
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                        You are correct sir between sb and the IH-MW

                        "honorable mention to the bearded giant aka derivative666 for being a stand up dude & not changing with the seasons since i've been around these parts" Monday

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                        • injunjackI
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                          no OD's this way….

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                          • D97x7D
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                            I'm probably a bit late to the party with my IHD-01od but I love the thing and will definitely buy another OD piece in the future.

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                            • GilesG
                              Giles
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                              Haraki did the 634S-B a few years ago.  It was the first od thing he did, and guess what, I just did not get it - for me a pair of jeans had to be indigo, indigo or indigo.

                              Anyway, I started doing more and more od stuff, and now you would have to kill me to prise my IHD-01od off me…..

                              "OK face up to it - you're useless but generally pretty honest and straightforward . . . it's a rare combination of qualities that I have come to admire in you" - Geo 2011

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                              • Max PowerM
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                                IMO od is a nice variety of denim and it enables me to wear black appearing jeans that still fade. And, as i think, in a more interesting way than black knights or the SBG. So, it has a permission of existance.

                                @elclintor:

                                > I don't care what people say.. The Max Power way is the right way…

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                                • madmondayM
                                  madmonday
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                                  i love OD, i just loved it more when it wasn't as common as it is now.  the process of accomplishing the OD as well as the possible legendary "atari fades", it's really dope stuff.  i have a pair of the SEXIH01BK (Black Overdyed Version) & i had a pair of SEXIH07BK (Overdyed Black) & i can honestly say the evolution of the OD process is evident when you compare the jeans side by side.  i'm a nostalgic romantic, so i always like things that are limited & hard to come by.  once it becomes common, part of it's charm is out the window for me  😠

                                  in essence, it's not OD, it's really me

                                  head high, middle finger higher

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                                  • J
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                                    @madmonday:

                                    i have a pair of the SEXIH01BK

                                    want to see, when convenient…..
                                    also interested to hear your thoughts on the evolution of the OD process, I have seen pics of old OD jeans
                                    (not old as in worn, I mean old as in the first 634s-b) nothing in person yet
                                    and they seem "less black" in pics if that makes sense
                                    I think the first 634s-b were actually called super black, before what is now called super black was in existence

                                    @Giles:

                                    IH-634S-B with all the naughty bits,  circa Jan 2006:

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                                    • GilesG
                                      Giles
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                                      Yep you are right, they were less black….

                                      "OK face up to it - you're useless but generally pretty honest and straightforward . . . it's a rare combination of qualities that I have come to admire in you" - Geo 2011

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                                      • thewickettT
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                                        yeah, i remember seeing pictures of them being less black - i think low rider has a faded pair of SEXIH01 that are that way. They faded way more contrasty with a broader range of color than the current OD IH jeans.

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                                        • GilesG
                                          Giles
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                                          "OK face up to it - you're useless but generally pretty honest and straightforward . . . it's a rare combination of qualities that I have come to admire in you" - Geo 2011

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                                            I love my IHxB01xOD. I rotate between the OD's and IHxB01 every other week and it's great because the denim and fit feel very different to me between the two pairs - even though they are essentially the same.

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