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      Chuck: no, that's a pic I ripped from an old Pentax 6x7 ad

      I never had the Pentacon, but lots of my favorite pics on flickr have been shot with the Biometar. I had the Kiev 60 with a 50mm CZJ and 80mm Volna for a while, the russian equivalent. Yes, very heavy and the Kiev is unfortunately just as heavy as unreliable. 😢

      Here it is with the CZJ Flektogon:


      . by the švabo, on Flickr

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        opinions are always welcome!

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          @holla:

          I never had the Pentacon, but lots of my favorite pics on flickr have been shot with the Biometar. I had the Kiev 60 with a 50mm CZJ and 80mm Volna for a while, the russian equivalent. Yes, very heavy and the Kiev is unfortunately just as heavy as unreliable. 😢

          Here it is with the CZJ Flektogon:


          . by the švabo, on Flickr

          I think Kiev 60 is the best camera ever made. I know it might be a little tricky (I have two bodies so it's more likely to have one working), but it really delivers awesome frames every time. By far the best MF to shoot with. I have 80mm, 120mm and 180mm Zeiss optics for it and the 50mm on WTB list.

          Here's a set from Savonia I shot with it.


          01 by myyra_ug, on Flickr


          02 by myyra_ug, on Flickr


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          04 by myyra_ug, on Flickr


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          07 by myyra_ug, on Flickr


          08 by myyra_ug, on Flickr


          09 by myyra_ug, on Flickr


          10 by myyra_ug, on Flickr


          11 by myyra_ug, on Flickr

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            Oh, I already added you on flickr some time ago. Great frames! Were you using slide film in those pics? To me it has that "slide film" look.

            I did like the results of the Kiev but not the hassle. For me it was a bit of a love and hate relationship (it probably is for every Kiev owner). The 50mm is awesome. Mine was mint, latest version and only fetched about 100€ on ebay when I sold it. Still a good deal for me because I found in a thrift store for 50€. 😉 Go for it!

            For some time I was contemplating buying another Kiev from http://araxphoto.com/ but I think my next 6x6 (love that format!) will be a Bronica or a Mamiya C330. Hasselblad and Rolleiflex are out of my reach and the prices only go up, it seems.

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              Yes they are slide film, can't remember which though.

              I have tried several other MF cameras too, but nothing is as simple to shoot as the Kiev 60. It's as easy to use as any 35mm SLR. I bought my second one from ebay and it was CLA'd after the factory.

              I'd like to get a Mamiya 6 in the future. Mamiya 7 was excellent but square format is closer to my heart so I sold it. I have a Mamiya C220 which don't get much use, but the lens (blue dot) is nice. I have one of those Pentax 6x7s too you have in your avatar.

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              • madmondayM
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                minus the cost factor.

                now which would you pros purchase to publish photos of yourself on the internet, & from time to time just doing randomness, but again published on the internet:

                Ricoh GR DIGITAL IV US 10 MP Digital Camera with 1x Optical Zoom and 3-Inch LCD screen vs.  Fujifilm X100 12.3 MP APS-C CMOS EXR Digital Camera with 23mm Fujinon Lens and 2.8-Inch LCD

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                  I have the x100 and really like it. No experience with the Ricoh but they generally make great cameras

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                    X100 is nice little camera. I like the feel, look and style of it. Didn't get used to autofocus so I sold it. Just looked some frames I took with it last summer, and they look fantastic. Might buy one again.

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                      I think the Ricoh would be more fitting for WAYWT pics. Instead of the x100 I would also look into the Fuji x10. The x100 looks like a great camera but I'd say you don't really need an APS-C sensor.

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                      • madmondayM
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                        thanks for the recommendations.  holla you think the x100 would be overkill?

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                          Yeah, it's a fine camera for sure. But the way I see it, this is more of an enthusiast's camera and the Ricoh will do just fine for a lot less money. My two cents.

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                            good two cents & thank you for chiming in.

                            i just did not want it to be only about the cost of the item as things tend to end up being when they are compared head to head. i also didn't want to have twenty cameras listed & asking which should i get 😶

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                              I'll chuck my 2 cents in here MM.  I love having a rotating screen, this really helps when doing WAYWT type stuff….I have one on my Canon G12 and it is now effectively a requirement for any camera I buy (just bought a Canon G1 X)...

                              "OK face up to it - you're useless but generally pretty honest and straightforward . . . it's a rare combination of qualities that I have come to admire in you" - Geo 2011

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                                @Giles:

                                I'll chuck my 2 cents in here MM.  I love having a rotating screen, this really helps when doing WAYWT type stuff….I have one on my Canon G12 and it is now effectively a requirement for any camera I buy (just bought a Canon G1 X)...

                                Canon G12 is what I use for WAYWT as well. Cheap hard working tough little camera. The swivel really helps out a lot.

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                                  @Giles:

                                  (just bought a Canon G1 X)…

                                  No proxy needed then?

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                                  • GilesG
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                                    I got one super cheap…...........

                                    "OK face up to it - you're useless but generally pretty honest and straightforward . . . it's a rare combination of qualities that I have come to admire in you" - Geo 2011

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                                      i've a G12 as well G, but find my pictures really look horrible. for the most part i just point & press.  keep my settings on auto & let the camera do all the work. no post production or any of that sort of stuff. any suggestions for a photography noob to make his images better?

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                                        I've never used a G12, but some general advice:

                                        Try to use natural light and turn off the flash as often as possible. Keep the ISO setting low, I'm sure you can set a maximum ISO speed on your Canon. Check out the scene modes. some might work wonders in certain situations. I don't know how other people on this board do WAYWT, but I imagine a small tripod is quite useful too.

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                                        • madmondayM
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                                          thank you.  i will make sure i do a waywt picture today in your honor holla & following your general directions as best a mad man can.

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                                            I hope it works for you. I am by no means a good photographer, just a huge photography nerd. 😉

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