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      loghill
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      @holla:

      I never had the Pentacon, but lots of my favorite pics on flickr have been shot with the Biometar. I had the Kiev 60 with a 50mm CZJ and 80mm Volna for a while, the russian equivalent. Yes, very heavy and the Kiev is unfortunately just as heavy as unreliable. 😢

      Here it is with the CZJ Flektogon:


      . by the švabo, on Flickr

      I think Kiev 60 is the best camera ever made. I know it might be a little tricky (I have two bodies so it's more likely to have one working), but it really delivers awesome frames every time. By far the best MF to shoot with. I have 80mm, 120mm and 180mm Zeiss optics for it and the 50mm on WTB list.

      Here's a set from Savonia I shot with it.


      01 by myyra_ug, on Flickr


      02 by myyra_ug, on Flickr


      03 by myyra_ug, on Flickr


      04 by myyra_ug, on Flickr


      05 by myyra_ug, on Flickr


      06 by myyra_ug, on Flickr


      07 by myyra_ug, on Flickr


      08 by myyra_ug, on Flickr


      09 by myyra_ug, on Flickr


      10 by myyra_ug, on Flickr


      11 by myyra_ug, on Flickr

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        Oh, I already added you on flickr some time ago. Great frames! Were you using slide film in those pics? To me it has that "slide film" look.

        I did like the results of the Kiev but not the hassle. For me it was a bit of a love and hate relationship (it probably is for every Kiev owner). The 50mm is awesome. Mine was mint, latest version and only fetched about 100€ on ebay when I sold it. Still a good deal for me because I found in a thrift store for 50€. 😉 Go for it!

        For some time I was contemplating buying another Kiev from http://araxphoto.com/ but I think my next 6x6 (love that format!) will be a Bronica or a Mamiya C330. Hasselblad and Rolleiflex are out of my reach and the prices only go up, it seems.

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          Yes they are slide film, can't remember which though.

          I have tried several other MF cameras too, but nothing is as simple to shoot as the Kiev 60. It's as easy to use as any 35mm SLR. I bought my second one from ebay and it was CLA'd after the factory.

          I'd like to get a Mamiya 6 in the future. Mamiya 7 was excellent but square format is closer to my heart so I sold it. I have a Mamiya C220 which don't get much use, but the lens (blue dot) is nice. I have one of those Pentax 6x7s too you have in your avatar.

          http://havaintoja.tumblr.com/

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          • madmondayM
            madmonday
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            minus the cost factor.

            now which would you pros purchase to publish photos of yourself on the internet, & from time to time just doing randomness, but again published on the internet:

            Ricoh GR DIGITAL IV US 10 MP Digital Camera with 1x Optical Zoom and 3-Inch LCD screen vs.  Fujifilm X100 12.3 MP APS-C CMOS EXR Digital Camera with 23mm Fujinon Lens and 2.8-Inch LCD

            head high, middle finger higher

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              I have the x100 and really like it. No experience with the Ricoh but they generally make great cameras

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                loghill
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                X100 is nice little camera. I like the feel, look and style of it. Didn't get used to autofocus so I sold it. Just looked some frames I took with it last summer, and they look fantastic. Might buy one again.

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                  I think the Ricoh would be more fitting for WAYWT pics. Instead of the x100 I would also look into the Fuji x10. The x100 looks like a great camera but I'd say you don't really need an APS-C sensor.

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                  • madmondayM
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                    thanks for the recommendations.  holla you think the x100 would be overkill?

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                      Yeah, it's a fine camera for sure. But the way I see it, this is more of an enthusiast's camera and the Ricoh will do just fine for a lot less money. My two cents.

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                      • madmondayM
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                        good two cents & thank you for chiming in.

                        i just did not want it to be only about the cost of the item as things tend to end up being when they are compared head to head. i also didn't want to have twenty cameras listed & asking which should i get 😶

                        head high, middle finger higher

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                        • GilesG
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                          I'll chuck my 2 cents in here MM.  I love having a rotating screen, this really helps when doing WAYWT type stuff….I have one on my Canon G12 and it is now effectively a requirement for any camera I buy (just bought a Canon G1 X)...

                          "OK face up to it - you're useless but generally pretty honest and straightforward . . . it's a rare combination of qualities that I have come to admire in you" - Geo 2011

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                            @Giles:

                            I'll chuck my 2 cents in here MM.  I love having a rotating screen, this really helps when doing WAYWT type stuff….I have one on my Canon G12 and it is now effectively a requirement for any camera I buy (just bought a Canon G1 X)...

                            Canon G12 is what I use for WAYWT as well. Cheap hard working tough little camera. The swivel really helps out a lot.

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                              @Giles:

                              (just bought a Canon G1 X)…

                              No proxy needed then?

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                              • GilesG
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                                I got one super cheap…...........

                                "OK face up to it - you're useless but generally pretty honest and straightforward . . . it's a rare combination of qualities that I have come to admire in you" - Geo 2011

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                                  i've a G12 as well G, but find my pictures really look horrible. for the most part i just point & press.  keep my settings on auto & let the camera do all the work. no post production or any of that sort of stuff. any suggestions for a photography noob to make his images better?

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                                    I've never used a G12, but some general advice:

                                    Try to use natural light and turn off the flash as often as possible. Keep the ISO setting low, I'm sure you can set a maximum ISO speed on your Canon. Check out the scene modes. some might work wonders in certain situations. I don't know how other people on this board do WAYWT, but I imagine a small tripod is quite useful too.

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                                    • madmondayM
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                                      thank you.  i will make sure i do a waywt picture today in your honor holla & following your general directions as best a mad man can.

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                                        I hope it works for you. I am by no means a good photographer, just a huge photography nerd. 😉

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                                        • madmondayM
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                                          nothing like specialized skills in a specific field 😉

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                                            monday I would agree the x100 a bit overkill for waywt, i use my iphone 4 for almost all my pics cause it's always in my pocket and it does a good enough job

                                            the x100 is a bit much for constant carry when I'm out and about, I only carry it when I know I'm going to be taking pics ie of the kids/family/place etc, it's a little too big to be pocketable and it's got a little heft cause the body is metal not plastic. plus its a prime lens 35mm field of view so no zoom

                                            the AF is mediocre, takes some getting used to, not good for fast action, the upshot is a great lens and great image quality, excellent low light performance, pleasant color rendering, and a rangefinder like feel if you're into that. they're starting to pop up on the used market for a few hundred bucks of new if you're still considering, a lot of Leica-type guys bought them and a few don't like the quirks

                                            my guess, you'd be happy with something more compact and a bit more versatile. just my thoughts

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