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    • J
      jacoavlu
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      zoom versus prime has really nothing to do with reading someone else's opinion or review…

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        . by the švabo, on Flickr

        My favorite dog, Django. Dumb as fuck but the sweetest thing you can imagine.  😘

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          so lax what's it gonna be in the end?

          I'm going to go for 35mm 1:1.8…just the money I can spend atm and yeah I'm with jaco on this...
          @jacoavlu:

          good photos are more about the scene, the light, the composition and framing, timing, being there and being ready

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            I think it is going to be the 24-70, I'm just trying to keep my horizons open for when I do buy it I wont end up regretting it (although i thunk that will be hard with such nice lenses).

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              Finn
              good choice

              lax - if you're thinking of the 35, do this:
              get out your zoom, set that shit at 35mm
              and tape across the zoom ring so you can't turn it
              force yourself to shoot at that length for a week or two
              see how you like it… can you live without the flexibility?
              plus you may prefer another length. 28? 50?
              there's quality lenses at any length.

              it depends how you shoot typically
              28 is great for street, scenes, groups of people, intimate, city wides, requires composition and getting in close. Google Garry Winogrand he always shot 28
              35 is classic, versatile, the length looks natural to many.
              50 is not quite wide, not quite tele. Can do some portrait, some scenes. But for some it's too in between (and a 35 on a crop camera is gonna be near 50) google Henri Cartier Bresson, he always shot 50

              and on and on...

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                but like Cris said… pics
                Leica MP, 35/2 ASPH, Kodachrome

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                • madmondayM
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                  whoopie, pics.

                  nice jaco.

                  that dog has pleading eyes holla & the way the focus is on his head is pretty cool.

                  cris nice shot of an item i would not appreciate unless in a photo.

                  head high, middle finger higher

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                    Thx, monday. Awesome shot, Jaco! I should have bought some Kodachrome before it was discontinued…

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                    • dizcoD
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                      @jacoavlu:

                      but like Cris said… pics
                      Leica MP, 35/2 ASPH, Kodachrome

                      yes, summicron

                      already own the 50 and still looking for any good deal for the 35 🙂

                      it's not a jeans, it's an iron heart

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                        @jacoavlu:

                        lax - if you're thinking of the 35, do this:
                        get out your zoom, set that shit at 35mm
                        and tape across the zoom ring so you can't turn it
                        force yourself to shoot at that length for a week or two
                        see how you like it… can you live without the flexibility?
                        plus you may prefer another length. 28? 50?
                        there's quality lenses at any length.

                        Hmm… yeah I think I like a zoom more so now. Well put btw. My ideal would be @ 24. I am going with a zoom lens for now though, I think if I wind up getting a FF body then I will get prime lenses (maybe even before), but I will just get the non L ones since I know the difference b/w L and non-L isn't that much.

                        @jacoavlu:

                        it depends how you shoot typically
                        28 is great for street, scenes, groups of people, intimate, city wides, requires composition and getting in close. Google Garry Winogrand he always shot 28
                        35 is classic, versatile, the length looks natural to many.
                        50 is not quite wide, not quite tele. Can do some portrait, some scenes. But for some it's too in between (and a 35 on a crop camera is gonna be near 50) google Henri Cartier Bresson, he always shot 50

                        and on and on…

                        Yeah, as you have convinced me now that I think the 24-70 is the way to go, I guess that is going to be the way I go. Doubt I will change my mind anymore, but if I do I will just look back here and re-convince myself that the 24-70 is the way to go. I am hopefully going to order it ASAP as I don't feel like waiting anymore. And so I don't bore anyone… PICTURE TIME!

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                          not trying to convince you my friend
                          I prefer a 35mm prime myself

                          just make sure what you buy suits your style - like denim

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                            Yeah I know what you mean. Ill settle for a 35mm but I won't get the L version, I will get probably the 35mm 2.0. But thats later on down the line. Thanks for all the help though!

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                              jacoavlu
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                              took the dog for a walk
                              this is looking west from the front drive
                              middle america

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                              • crisoneC
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                                Shots of my Homies S4…......

                                5D,16-35L, 430ex.

                                Cris.

                                RIP GEO

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                                • daveD
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                                  I had a Canon 24-70, but sold it once I hadn't touched it for a year after getting the 35 f1/4 L prime.  If I ever stop shooting sports, the goal is to sell it all and get an M9–hopefully after they make an M10 and the M9 shows up in the used market 😃

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                                    My GFs bday is Friday and she has been dropping hints since the day we met that she wanted a DSLR and that she likes Nikon… yet she has no experience w DSLR cameras at all haha I went ahead and got her a beginner Nikon model for her bday the D5100 that comes with a 18-55mm kit lens and it was bundled w a bag and instructional DVD set and i got a 16GB class 10 mem card. I've read that the kit lens is a decent starter lens for walking around while you are learning... what lenses should i be looking at for upgrades as she progresses(before i have to consider upgrading the body itself ha ha)?

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                                      That's hard to answer because it depends on what she likes… If she likes taking pics of bugs and flowers, a macro lens is perfect.  If she likes birds, you might have to plunk down cash for a 500 f/4.  It's easier if you think of lenses as a tool and not as the next purchase.  Otherwise you end up buying a bunch of crap you think you want like I've been known to do.

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                                        35/1.8 is a nice #2 lens to have for the entry nikon dslrs
                                        the kit lens is very good until then

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                                          I think (IMO) it is best to use the kit lens first and use it all the time for a couple of months to get the feel for it. She will also learn all the settings (keep her in manual), don't let her use the auto setting whatever you do.

                                          She should begin to learn how shutter speed, aperture, ISO, all make a photo. At first I was shooting in auto but then realized I should be in Manual and easily got the hang of it.

                                          Edit: btw, I don't think she would ever need a 500 f/4 haha, maybe when she goes pro.

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                                            Yesss, ok so I started my day off by trying to order a 24-70, but the place I was originally going to buy it from raised the price $50, so I tried another place. Looked all fine until I called them and they were out of stock and had to wait 2+ weeks. so I went somewhere came back got on the phone with Abes Of Maine and started hassling with them. 20 minutes later I got the lens down from $1399 to the original asking price of $1349 (not a big deal), so I bought it. I also got an extended 5 YEAR warranty on it (includes drops, etc..) and a polarizing filter on it as well (that is free). So all in all it cost me $1500, but I will be able to now have a good lens to use. Just thought I might share my story if anyone cares 🙂

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